I honestly... don't care? We had a few people saying how happy they were it got the readers vote; great. I'm glad. We had a few people say they were disappointed - I said, well, the staff had a different opinion, here's a link. They're all entitled to that opinion, and I like to think we presented a pretty balanced hand in terms of the awards FF15 got from the staff, and I feel the user vote (which was very close - less than 50 votes in it between 1st and 2nd out of over 8000) just added another string to our bow in terms of the breadth of representation there.
I was also happy FF15 won the readers' vote because I'd told people at Square who'd won the staff vote before it was officially posted and they were quite disappointed; they were really happy to see they'd won the readers' thing.
I was also happy that for the second year running the user vote broadly matched ours; it featured the same games in its top six, just in a different order.
The whole thing about the awards is nobody is ever entirely happy; I didn't want SMT4:A to win the overall staff award, but I was outflanked and outvoted (and after nine hours of solid podcast and debate I was tired and declined to put up a stronger fight for Stardew Valley), and I accept that! The whole point is to make the running, to be mentioned at all in any category is a pretty big deal. Good games (like Bravely Second, for instance) were barely mentioned at all. Personal lists would always be different; Dark Souls 3 came nowhere in basically every category and when push comes to shove that's my joint-favourite of the year alongside Blood & Wine.
It wasn't a great year for WRPGs, but I hope we'll see Mass Effect, Horizon and so on place higher in 2017's polls.
I wrote it because I felt insulted, honestly, because it's a misrepresentation of who we are, and because we work bloody hard. Zack (or whoever else) is perfectly entitled to his opinion on his personal account, by the way - I don't think it's 'salty' to be critical or take a shot there, and I've taken plenty, and at games I love. I routinely tear down Capcom on my twitter for the state of Street Fighter 5, but it's my second favourite game of 2016. The two aren't mutually exclusive anyway.
But I reiterate - I don't know how there's been consistent hate on the game since August considing the two glowing (and one lukewarm) previews since August, the 8/10 review, the in-depth 2000 word interview with Tabata, and the one award and three runner-up nods we gave to FF15 in our awards without even counting the Readers' Choice thing.
But generally speaking I'd say:
I was also happy FF15 won the readers' vote because I'd told people at Square who'd won the staff vote before it was officially posted and they were quite disappointed; they were really happy to see they'd won the readers' thing.
I was also happy that for the second year running the user vote broadly matched ours; it featured the same games in its top six, just in a different order.
The whole thing about the awards is nobody is ever entirely happy; I didn't want SMT4:A to win the overall staff award, but I was outflanked and outvoted (and after nine hours of solid podcast and debate I was tired and declined to put up a stronger fight for Stardew Valley), and I accept that! The whole point is to make the running, to be mentioned at all in any category is a pretty big deal. Good games (like Bravely Second, for instance) were barely mentioned at all. Personal lists would always be different; Dark Souls 3 came nowhere in basically every category and when push comes to shove that's my joint-favourite of the year alongside Blood & Wine.
It wasn't a great year for WRPGs, but I hope we'll see Mass Effect, Horizon and so on place higher in 2017's polls.
I wrote it because I felt insulted, honestly, because it's a misrepresentation of who we are, and because we work bloody hard. Zack (or whoever else) is perfectly entitled to his opinion on his personal account, by the way - I don't think it's 'salty' to be critical or take a shot there, and I've taken plenty, and at games I love. I routinely tear down Capcom on my twitter for the state of Street Fighter 5, but it's my second favourite game of 2016. The two aren't mutually exclusive anyway.
But I reiterate - I don't know how there's been consistent hate on the game since August considing the two glowing (and one lukewarm) previews since August, the 8/10 review, the in-depth 2000 word interview with Tabata, and the one award and three runner-up nods we gave to FF15 in our awards without even counting the Readers' Choice thing.
But generally speaking I'd say:
- If you don't know about the consensus and it doesn't matter to you, why are you commenting on it at all? Why is it so 'hilarious' if it doesn't matter?
- If you can't have a little respect for the staff of the site that runs/owns this board, you know where the door is, innit.
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