Final Fantasy XV - General News Thread

[RetroPS4]

This was just posted on the Kingsglaive twitter:

https://twitter.com/kingsglaive/status/741164023023013888
The translation says Kings sword emblem. Its a pin that will be given out with some of the tickets at showings of the movie.

Note the wings: Diabolos, is that you? Its time for another patented RetroPS4 MSpaint comparison:


Are we looking at an official first glimpse of the Lucian summon?

Also notice there are 15 swords including the main one...remember from E3 2013 "The world is forever changing...for the 15th coming"

 

[SonOfEtro]

Just a show of hands (or say rather), does any of you guys feel skeptical with FFXV so far? Or do you feel 100% optimistic for the game?
I'm curious to hear where everyone is at with the game. Any worry, ups, down, confusion and so on?

To me, I just have to say FFXV has got to 'wow' me this E3 like how other SE games in the event have already done swimmingly. The game has a lot to prove for me, is what I'm saying.

I'm on the fence. The gameplay seems quite fun, and we've still not seen all the nuances yet. The graphics are spectacular, even more so as the greater majority is real-time rather than pre-rendered. I'm still hoping they'll keep the story true to their promises of it being sad and emotional. I'll also want to see a lot more of how the interactions between Noctis' friends are handled. The only thing I'm completely skeptical about is the dub, which has every chance of being wrong (given many Jp game's recent track record of ENG voices that make me roll my eyes when I've heard the Japanese).

This was just posted on the Kingsglaive twitter:

https://twitter.com/kingsglaive/status/741164023023013888
The translation says Kings sword emblem. Its a pin that will be given out with some of the tickets at showings of the movie.

Note the wings: Diabolos, is that you? Its time for another patented RetroPS4 MSpaint comparison:
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Are we looking at an official glimpse of the Insomnia summon?

Also notice there are 15 swords including the main one...remember from E3 2013 "for the 15th is coming"

Hmm... That could equally well be Bahamut. But it's certainly one of the creatures from the Genesis artwork. Most likely the man on the far right holding the mermaid figure (still debating whether that's Siren or Leviathan)

Oh, and someone did a translation of the writing on that banner thing beneath the human figures. It apparently goes something like "Stars and moon guard the night, would that they may rule come dawn". Something like that.

 

[RetroPS4]

I'm on the fence. The gameplay seems quite fun, and we've still not seen all the nuances yet. The graphics are spectacular, even more so as the greater majority is real-time rather than pre-rendered. I'm still hoping they'll keep the story true to their promises of it being sad and emotional. I'll also want to see a lot more of how the interactions between Noctis' friends are handled. The only thing I'm completely skeptical about is the dub, which has every chance of being wrong (given many Jp game's recent track record of ENG voices that make me roll my eyes when I've heard the Japanese).


Hmm... That could equally well be Bahamut. But it's certainly one of the creatures from the Genesis artwork. Most likely the man on the far right holding the mermaid figure (still debating whether that's Siren or Leviathan)

Oh, and someone did a translation of the writing on that banner thing beneath the human figures. It apparently goes something like "Stars and moon guard the night, would that they may rule come dawn". Something like that.

True, could be Bahamut as well. However, Bahamut being a dragon makes more sence for and seems more likely to be the summon for Nifleheim...that leaves Diabolos more likely to me.

 

[Death Penalty]

Dragons don't always have to look exactly the same. You'll note that XIII and X both had bipedal designs for Bahamut that could really easily fit what's presented here on the pin. I also don't think every nation's sigil will necessarily correspond directly to an Astral, though I'd love to be wrong since it will confirm Fenrir's presence.

 

[DrBretto]

I am as sold on this game at this point in the development process as I was in FFVII when it was at this same stage. This includes some educated projections to fill in some blanks, so there's both a chance for it to become unraveled and I can understand someone who is casually following this could still be skeptical.

But, at this stage, I would feel pretty confident betting an exceptional sum of money on this games success. I think we're looking at another FFVII.

 

[masterlobo]

Wow, Uncovered trailer is almost at 2M views.

Do you guys think it will hit the 2M mark before E3?

 

[Koozek]

Wow, Uncovered trailer is almost at 2M views.

Do you guys think it will hit the 2M mark before E3?

If you add up all the official uploads of that trailer and the extended Special version in different languages on SE's various channels it's at over 7 million (JP version 2M, EU version 2M, US version 1M, plus a few specifically dubbed/subbed versions (German, French etc.):
https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAMSAggF&q=trailer+uncovered+final+fantasy+xv+reclaim+your+throne

 

[Rin]

Also notice there are 15 swords including the main one...remember from E3 2013 "The world is forever changing...for the 15th coming"

I wouldn't read into those E3 2013 lines, like, at all. Noctis was just talking about the game being the 15th entry of the series rather than a "Versus" fantasy, in prettier translated English.

Oh, and someone did a translation of the writing on that banner thing beneath the human figures. It apparently goes something like "Stars and moon guard the night, would that they may rule come dawn". Something like that.

Props to that person 'cause holy moly how can anyone read that? lol

 

[Tornak]

I actually wouldn't be surprised if that guy is Odin, to be honest (death-themed Summon with a sword and horns). Although the wings don't fit and I guess it'd be a bit repetitive having Odin, again, as the main character's summon (all of these are guesses, for all we know the Lucis Astral (IF they even have one!) won't be avaible for the players).

Can't wait to see all the Astrals and the lore surrounding them. FF X is faaaaaar from being my favourite, but I always loved the whole lore and background given to the summons. So far, I really like what I'm seeing, with the whole star-related background, the (again, seemingly) connection between the Astrals and regions they defend and what not.

I wouldn't read into those E3 2013 lines, like, at all. Noctis was just talking about the game being the 15th entry of the series rather than a "Versus" fantasy, in prettier translated English.

Yeah, Nomura said that that wasn't something that was in the game, but something they included to show the transition from Versus to XV.

Now, I can see a lot of different nods towards the game being the fifteen main title. FF IX had a ton of allusions to the number 9 (whether deliberate or not, but there are a lot).

 

[SonOfEtro]

I actually wouldn't be surprised if that guy is Odin, to be honest (death-themed Summon with a sword and horns). Although the wings don't fit and I guess it'd be a bit repetitive having Odin, again, as the main character's summon (all of these are guesses, for all we know the Lucis Astral (IF they even have one!) won't be avaible for the players).

Can't wait to see all the Astrals and the lore surrounding them. FF X is faaaaaar from being my favourite, but I always loved the whole lore and background given to the summons. So far, I really like what I'm seeing, with the whole star-related background, the (again, seemingly) connection between the Astrals and regions they defend and what not.

I'm keen to see it too. And I would be very surprised if Lucis didn't have a summon, given how closely they seem to be tied to the world's genesis forces (deities, Astrals, probably crystal(s)). I would be more surprised if Niflheim did have on. They seem to fall into the same deity-defiance-through-technology slot as the Milites Empire in Type-0 (and humanity post-XIII in XIII-2, come to think of it). They might at a pinch have one enslaved (like the White Tiger Crystal was basically enslaved by Milites), but I don't think they'd show it the same respect other Astrals get across Eos.

 

[Death Penalty]

It would be nice to know how the Astrals fit in. Tabata described them as being very different from humans and not having much interest in human affairs, so it would be surprising to me if summons "belonged" to nations at all despite what the heraldry of said nations might suggest. If I had to guess, I would say it's more likely that the nations worship the Astrals than that the Astrals are at the beck and call or even feel affiliated with said nations. After all, we see Leviathan, the Astral on all of Accordo's heraldry, ripping the water city to pieces apparently to combat Niflheim and Noctis. It's also worth noting that Luna acts as an emissary to these Astrals on behalf of the world, which is another strike against national affiliation especially considering that her nation is under Niflheim's heel. This suggests that even Niflheim holds the Astrals in some kind of regard, as Luna's affiliation with them has allowed her to continue to operate as Oracle despite Niflheim's chains.

I would figure the Astrals serve a higher purpose and don't have much to do with the goings-on of the human world beyond possible divine intervention. Titan seems to have caught a meteor, for instance, so perhaps it's more along the line of that sort of thing. We know that the Astrals can be talked to, convinced and have their own agendas so it's not out of the realm of possibility that they've helped or had accords with nations in the past. After all, Tabata always describes Noctis' summoning as a request and not an order, so his relationship with the Astrals may be similar to that of humans in the past.

 

[SonOfEtro]

It would be nice to know how the Astrals fit in. Tabata described them as being very different from humans and not having much interest in human affairs, so it would be surprising to me if summons "belonged" to nations at all despite what the heraldry of said nations might suggest. If I had to guess, I would say it's more likely that the nations worship the Astrals than that the Astrals are at the beck and call or even feel affiliated with said nations. After all, we see Leviathan, the Astral on all of Accordo's heraldry, ripping the water city to pieces apparently to combat Niflheim and Noctis. It's also worth noting that Luna acts as an emissary to these Astrals on behalf of the world, which is another strike against national affiliation especially considering that her nation is under Niflheim's heel. This suggests that even Niflheim holds the Astrals in some kind of regard, as Luna's affiliation with them has allowed her to continue to operate as Oracle despite Niflheim's chains.

I would figure the Astrals serve a higher purpose and don't have much to do with the goings-on of the human world beyond possible divine intervention. Titan seems to have caught a meteor, for instance, so perhaps it's more along the line of that sort of thing. We know that the Astrals can be talked to, convinced and have their own agendas so it's not out of the realm of possibility that they've helped or had accords with nations in the past. After all, Tabata always describes Noctis' summoning as a request and not an order, so his relationship with the Astrals may be similar to that of humans in the past.

Ah, I'd clean forgotten that. It's a hangover from other series entries, I suppose. This will be most refreshing.

 

[Death Penalty]

Ah, I'd clean forgotten that. It's a hangover from other series entries, I suppose. This will be most refreshing.

Couldn't agree more. Final Fantasy XV has an amazing world even by Final Fantasy standards so far, and that's saying a lot!

 

[Tornak]

Yeah, that's something that I think XV is doing pretty great (we've yet to see the result, mind you, but the sensations are pretty good). To be honest, this is the first time, along with FF XII (and given the whole "Sinh shapes the world" thing, FFX), where I feel that this is an actual world and not just a planet with a few cities, some villages and a couple of caves and that's about it.

That's why I prefer this approach: having the player only set foot in several parts of the world (or a continent) and not the entire world, because my immersion somewhat goes to shit when I think about, for example, FF VIII's world (which is, along with IX, my favourite FF world) being just a couple of cities (Esthar's size is pretty cool, though).

You don't need to show me everything to actually have a big playground, as XII and, presumably, XV demonstrate. I understand that that's because of technological and logistical aspects, but I rather have this approach: the world feels much more real and alive, especially if you manage to find a way to connect the different regions in an organic manner.

 

[SonOfEtro]

Yeah, that's something that I think XV is doing pretty great (we've yet to see the result, mind you, but the sensations are pretty good). To be honest, this is the first time, along with FF XII (and given the whole "Sinh shapes the world" thing, FFX), where I feel that this is an actual world and not just a planet with a few cities, some villages and a couple of caves and that's about it.

Yeah. There are only two other titles where I've had that feeling. That's Cocoon from XIII (being an artificial world that you're guided through quite strictly, that's not surprising) and XII's version of Ivalice (which is technically only a part of a larger continent, which itself is part of a world we still haven't seen all of). I think this will legitimately be the first time the Final Fantasy series has managed it on such a grand scale.

 

[Tornak]

I'm saying for what I am about to see of FFXV in the coming days, has to "wow" me in some caliber like how some SE games at E3 have already done (with showing gameplay and other elements of the game).

I'm still not sold in the gameplay just yet. As you may know, what I (and others) have played of FFXV have either been in pieces or a work in progress (The demos). I just crave to see what the whole package would play out in the final release. Not saying I will be disappointed, just cautiously optimistic for what I'm about witness and experience.
As for the story...... Well, I don't mind finding out what the hell is going on upon playing the final release. However, I also don't mind them just showing what kind of themes the story will be exploring in. OH, I can't forget about the English voice cast. I NEED to hear them.

Everything else, I'll leave it to the Square Enix Presents livestream.

I actually agree. I need a good trailer (the Uncovered one was pretty nice already, though) and a good demonstration of gameplay, especially if we can play it ourselves (pls Tabata). The Uncovered event (and prior to that, the Niflheim gameplay) actually made me the hypest I'd been ever since they announced the changes back in 2014. But I still need a LITTLE bit more (not that it's necessary, because I'm getting the game unless it's a total disgrace).

I enjoyed PD for what it was, but it wasn't, obviously, enough to show what the game is like (it's a tech demo after all) and, despite it hinting at how intricate the combat system actually is, there are quite a few things I'm worried about regarding it and the visuals. All I want is that, a good trailer and a good show of gameplay, whether we ever get to play it or just hear the impressions by people who had already played ED and the PD and get to play it at E3.

And I'm not too worried about the story, it's not like any FF is a masterpiece in that regard. They range from mediocre at times to great at times, too, but at the end of the day it's not as if they're amazing for the most part. And I'm saying this as a person whose favourite series is FF and whose favourite game ever is FF IX. I just hope it's not a convulted bullshit like KH: keep it relatively simple and interesting enough (which was what XII kinda lacked) and I'll be happy.

The thing I don't agree with is the English dub. If (key word, but I'm confident) they're finally making it so that we can play in JP, I don't see why I should care about a subpar dub out there. Now, if it were the only one avaible to me... well, shit.

 

[Noctis_Caelum]

To that figure posted on twitter, remember Tabata once said there is one summon who looks completely different than usually.
So it could be Diabolos with a sword or Odin with wings.

As for FF XV, the game itself make me hype like never before.
Everytime when I read "Final Fantasy XV" than I'm just happy and excited to see more news about it.
This game has a fantastic artdesign, amazing environments, interesting characters and epic soundtrack.
They just need to show something more epic and wow effects like the Leviathan scene at E3 2013, Adamantit (turtle monster) at TGS 2014, 3 giants at Gamescom 2015 or the World Of Wonder 3 Environment Trailer.
Just a good directed trailer like the E3 one.

 

[SonOfEtro]

To that figure posted on twitter, remember Tabata once said there is one summon who looks completely different than usually.
So it could be Diabolos with a sword or Odin with wings.

As for FF XV, the game itself make me hype like never before.
Everytime when I read "Final Fantasy XV" than I'm just happy and excited to see more news about it.
This game has a fantastic artdesign, amazing environments, interesting characters and epic soundtrack.
They just need to show something more epic and wow effects like the Leviathan scene at E3 2013, Adamantit (turtle monster) at TGS 2014, 3 giants at Gamescom 2015 or the World Of Wonder 3 Environment Trailer.
Just a good directed trailer like the E3 one.

Yeah, WoW 3 and the Dawn trailer were amazing. Personally, I was a little unsure about the E3 Leviathan scene, it just seemed far too much like God of War to me (which is a series I've never been able to like). I much prefer the scene from the Uncovered trailer where Lunafreya faces Leviathan down.

 

[Flash Over]

Standard edition is $49.96 CAD on Amazon Canada. Not sure for how long.

 

[RetroPS4]

To that figure posted on twitter, remember Tabata once said there is one summon who looks completely different than usually.
So it could be Diabolos with a sword or Odin with wings.

As for FF XV, the game itself make me hype like never before.
Everytime when I read "Final Fantasy XV" than I'm just happy and excited to see more news about it.
This game has a fantastic artdesign, amazing environments, interesting characters and epic soundtrack.
They just need to show something more epic and wow effects like the Leviathan scene at E3 2013, Adamantit (turtle monster) at TGS 2014, 3 giants at Gamescom 2015 or the World Of Wonder 3 Environment Trailer.
Just a good directed trailer like the E3 one.

Oh, I totally forgot that quote, well if the old speculated Hamlet connection still exists, maybe Odin makes sense, in so much that that setting was Denmark, lol. Tabata has said in the past XV is based on Norse and Japanese mythology...weve never seen odin with a skull face and wings though...and even given Tabata's quote it seems a bit extreme, and also a skull, wings and a tail basically is what diabolos looks like! One way or another, we might get clarification soon- E3!!



@Koozek Btw, speaking of E3 can you get a message to GAF twitchchat again? RetroPS4