So the guy thought a
was worthy of inclusion in a basic plot outline but not
Right. -_-
You're really grasping at straws.
"it's not modeled yet, when you play it now it's just young him. I haven't seen concept art but ghost Regis notes that he looks older, so he probably has new defining features." Didn't say he was talking to Noctis nowhere in that post did he say Regis and Noctis were talking to EACH OTHER.
And, again, the idea that the guy would include a
while leaving out
is absurd.
This is getting ridiculous. In order to defend a guy who, at the very least, clearly had a chip on his shoulder, you've come up with a just-so story where
There comes a time when you just have to accept that Occam's Razor is a thing and stop positing epicycle upon epicycle in defense of a failing theory.
Did you actually read that link you posted (and then deleted)? "Multiple direct sequels" wasn't actually a direct quote from Nomura -- in fact, the actual direct quote said nothing about how the story would be continued. The same site that said "multiple direct sequels" also stated that "his response even suggests that any future sequels could be released episodically."
Given that, as I've proved repeatedly, the leaker wasn't "on the money about nearly everything about this game," I don't think "trilogy" is as safe an assumption as you do. In fact, given Nomura's proclivities, I'd expect that even if he planned it as a trilogy, it'd have spread out beyond that, given the current state of KH. =P
Or, you know, he could have just used the second hand information he had about other stuff to gain a reputation while simultaneously making up a bunch of unverifiable crud. Given the existence of verifiable crud, that seems like the most likely possibility.
In any case, wasn't the ghost/hallucination guy someone else? I don't remember any username being attached to the first leak (neither the NeoGAF nor GameFAQs thread includes a name, in any case).
Speaking of verifiable crud, I like how you skipped the leaker's answer to question 3 here, since he obviously just parroted what Tabata was saying publicly (40-50hr main quest) instead of revealing that the game's main quest was a lot shorter than the devs claimed it to be.
This is, for the record, the only information about Versus that guy claimed to give -- that it would have been a trilogy. It's certainly not implausible, but there's no reason to take his word for it.
Uh, the reference to FFXIII was intended to imply the amount of content in each VIIR game, not the amount of games that they'd be making. As with Versus, "trilogy" is plausible in and of itself but doesn't have any meaningful evidence to support it.
QTE prompt
a cinematic fight with unique gameplay mechanics?
You're really grasping at straws.
If Regis was talking to Noct directly, the situation would be completely different than the one we saw in-game, to the point where it wouldn't make sense for Noct not to respond.
And, again, the idea that the guy would include a
QTE prompt
an actual fight
It's far more likely that he didn't mention the bros getting knocked out because he didn't know about it. Assuming that he knew just because he said "Noct wins" instead of "Noct and co. win" is the very definition of grasping at straws.
This is getting ridiculous. In order to defend a guy who, at the very least, clearly had a chip on his shoulder, you've come up with a just-so story where
the guy saw the final cutscene, except that Regis' dialogue was different, Noct's character model was replaced with his default young model (which, uh, doesn't have gloves), and Luna's was replaced with her model as a child (which has completely different proportions and a completely different hairstyle than the model it's intended to stand in for =P ). I mean, it's not impossible, I guess, but it's certainly implausible given that neither Noct's default young model nor Luna's child model could possibly share animation sets with the models used in that final cutscene.
There comes a time when you just have to accept that Occam's Razor is a thing and stop positing epicycle upon epicycle in defense of a failing theory.
Did you actually read that link you posted (and then deleted)? "Multiple direct sequels" wasn't actually a direct quote from Nomura -- in fact, the actual direct quote said nothing about how the story would be continued. The same site that said "multiple direct sequels" also stated that "his response even suggests that any future sequels could be released episodically."
Given that, as I've proved repeatedly, the leaker wasn't "on the money about nearly everything about this game," I don't think "trilogy" is as safe an assumption as you do. In fact, given Nomura's proclivities, I'd expect that even if he planned it as a trilogy, it'd have spread out beyond that, given the current state of KH. =P
Or, you know, he could have just used the second hand information he had about other stuff to gain a reputation while simultaneously making up a bunch of unverifiable crud. Given the existence of verifiable crud, that seems like the most likely possibility.
In any case, wasn't the ghost/hallucination guy someone else? I don't remember any username being attached to the first leak (neither the NeoGAF nor GameFAQs thread includes a name, in any case).
Speaking of verifiable crud, I like how you skipped the leaker's answer to question 3 here, since he obviously just parroted what Tabata was saying publicly (40-50hr main quest) instead of revealing that the game's main quest was a lot shorter than the devs claimed it to be.
This is, for the record, the only information about Versus that guy claimed to give -- that it would have been a trilogy. It's certainly not implausible, but there's no reason to take his word for it.
Uh, the reference to FFXIII was intended to imply the amount of content in each VIIR game, not the amount of games that they'd be making. As with Versus, "trilogy" is plausible in and of itself but doesn't have any meaningful evidence to support it.
What unique gameplay mechanics? It's practically the same as the Leviathan fight, just Ardyn has the same abilties.
Now onto the stand in stuff, there have been glitches within the game where you can use young Noctis to do older Noctis fights and the cutscenes play out the exact same way and the animations are the same, the same animation for both throne Luna could probably been used for the young version of the character, same with Noctis during the end throne scene.
It's not out of the question that this is what they did in play testing.
Now onto the rest of the post.
The guy again gave a pretty basic plot outline of stuff that happens in the game itself, also I myself said the starscourge Ardyn being monster Ardyn was a guess of mine(QTE Prompt), the leaker never said that was the case in fact further reveals of info show that Monster Ardyn got cut, so no he didn't include a QTE Prompt that was an actual fight.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323493
Also you can't compare Kingdom Hearts to Final Fantasy, when it comes to how Nomura would have done things for quite obvious reasons.
The final scene of the game is real-time graphics, so it's very possible he saw that part, and it is very possible that Regis spoke one line and Noct's apperance the guy didn't give any specifics here is the entirety of the line.
"So whats the design like for 10 years older Noctis?"
it's not modeled yet, when you play it now it's just young him. I haven't seen concept art but ghost Regis notes that he looks older, so he probably has new defining features.
This doesn't say anything about a conversation between Regis and Noctis, Regis could have been saying that during the final scene of the game where Regis is actually talking, and it's very possible that line got cut, this wouldn't affect Noctis in the slightest because he didn't speak during that segment until the screen fades to black and he says Thank You. You keep acting as if Noctis and Regis were actually talking to each other, when the leak says nothing of the sort unless you want to point me to exact line of the text that would require Noctis to speak during that scene, I don't believe you.
Now about the 40 hours thing I'm not going to touch on it because people have actually beaten the game in the 40 hour game time span and in the rest of the post he said they are trying to bump it up to 50 hours by encouraging the fetch quests which are numerous in this game. So I'm simply guessing he's just one of those people who did it in a casual play-through and not gunning through it granted some real-time graphics cut-scenes involving Luna got cut out, so whether that added to the length idk.
Now for the 1000th time about the trilogy
Nomura's quote
"While Final Fantasy XV will have one climax, as a story, we plan to continue it further."
From another post talking about these sequels
Upon being challenged whether or not fans would have to wait a further eight years before seeing any of these sequels, Nomura was quick to assert this wouldn't be the case. In fact, his response suggests that future games could even be released episodically to keep waiting times down.
He never said episodically, he just said that the wait times for the sequels wouldn't be 8 years, the episodic part comes from someone within Square(can't remember the name that said that) who said that the wait times were unprofitable and dishonest, so people thought oh it would have been released in parts like Telltale(Which honestly probably would have been better for the games story if each part had enough content in it), but realistically it would have just been 3 games.
Now as I have said before even if this game wasn't suppose to be a 3 parter, that doesn't change the fact that the game was suppose to have multi-part parts to it, instead of being condensed(poorly might I add) into one story to which I will always say was to it's detriment as they clearly spread themselves too thin.
In fact I wouldn't be suprised if the original ending for FFXV wasn't the same one we would end up getting, and the ending in the current FFXV was reserved for game 3 or a different XV related game entirely.
Also no the FFXIII trilogy reference was a blueprint for release of the game being "episodic"
Square Enix has clarified the episodic structure of its Final Fantasy 7 Remake, stating it will be comprised of multiple, full-sized games instead of a series of smaller episodes.
According to the game's Producer, Yoshinori Kitase, the Final Fantasy 7 Remake will use the Final Fantasy XIII series as a blueprint for how the company will release each installment.
Said Kitase:
It will essentially be a full scale game for each part of the multi-part series. In XIII, each installment told the story from a different angle. It was kind of like approaching an unknown territory in a sense.
Whereas with Final Fantasy VII Remake, we already have a preexisting story, so it wouldn't really make sense if that isn't encompassed in a multi-part series... So if we're just looking at each of these parts, one part should be on par with the scale of one Final Fantasy XIII game."
The length of each part was compared to a XIII game that is true, but he said more than that, he said the entire series would be used as a blueprint on how they release each part of the FF7 Remake, so a trilogy.
So for the last time, unless you can present any reasonable argument as to why the leaker who in June leaked the basic plot which apart from Monster Ardyn which was said to be cut from the main game, was spot on about the rest of everything, as well as Shiva being Gentiana which if you had only played the game without looking at the external material you wouldn't have seen it any other way and the 10 year timeskip shown off at the start which would only see at Gamescom in August, he leaked it in June along with the Trial of Titan stuff before E3 (by god Tabata said one coherent story should have stuck with the sequel plan), then there is no reason for anyone to doubt that FFXV was meant to be a multi-part series trilogy or not, and it got condensed into one game to it's detriment not to it's benefit unless you want to tell me poorly fleshed out side characters is a good thing
Now onto the stand in stuff, there have been glitches within the game where you can use young Noctis to do older Noctis fights and the cutscenes play out the exact same way and the animations are the same, the same animation for both throne Luna could probably been used for the young version of the character, same with Noctis during the end throne scene.
Now onto the rest of the post.
The guy again gave a pretty basic plot outline of stuff that happens in the game itself, also I myself said the starscourge Ardyn being monster Ardyn was a guess of mine(QTE Prompt), the leaker never said that was the case in fact further reveals of info show that Monster Ardyn got cut, so no he didn't include a QTE Prompt that was an actual fight.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323493
Also you can't compare Kingdom Hearts to Final Fantasy, when it comes to how Nomura would have done things for quite obvious reasons.
The final scene of the game is real-time graphics, so it's very possible he saw that part, and it is very possible that Regis spoke one line and Noct's apperance the guy didn't give any specifics here is the entirety of the line.
"So whats the design like for 10 years older Noctis?"
it's not modeled yet, when you play it now it's just young him. I haven't seen concept art but ghost Regis notes that he looks older, so he probably has new defining features.
This doesn't say anything about a conversation between Regis and Noctis, Regis could have been saying that during the final scene of the game where Regis is actually talking, and it's very possible that line got cut, this wouldn't affect Noctis in the slightest because he didn't speak during that segment until the screen fades to black and he says Thank You. You keep acting as if Noctis and Regis were actually talking to each other, when the leak says nothing of the sort unless you want to point me to exact line of the text that would require Noctis to speak during that scene, I don't believe you.
Now about the 40 hours thing I'm not going to touch on it because people have actually beaten the game in the 40 hour game time span and in the rest of the post he said they are trying to bump it up to 50 hours by encouraging the fetch quests which are numerous in this game. So I'm simply guessing he's just one of those people who did it in a casual play-through and not gunning through it granted some real-time graphics cut-scenes involving Luna got cut out, so whether that added to the length idk.
Now for the 1000th time about the trilogy
Nomura's quote
"While Final Fantasy XV will have one climax, as a story, we plan to continue it further."
From another post talking about these sequels
Upon being challenged whether or not fans would have to wait a further eight years before seeing any of these sequels, Nomura was quick to assert this wouldn't be the case. In fact, his response suggests that future games could even be released episodically to keep waiting times down.
He never said episodically, he just said that the wait times for the sequels wouldn't be 8 years, the episodic part comes from someone within Square(can't remember the name that said that) who said that the wait times were unprofitable and dishonest, so people thought oh it would have been released in parts like Telltale(Which honestly probably would have been better for the games story if each part had enough content in it), but realistically it would have just been 3 games.
Now as I have said before even if this game wasn't suppose to be a 3 parter, that doesn't change the fact that the game was suppose to have multi-part parts to it, instead of being condensed(poorly might I add) into one story to which I will always say was to it's detriment as they clearly spread themselves too thin.
In fact I wouldn't be suprised if the original ending for FFXV wasn't the same one we would end up getting, and the ending in the current FFXV was reserved for game 3 or a different XV related game entirely.
Also no the FFXIII trilogy reference was a blueprint for release of the game being "episodic"
Square Enix has clarified the episodic structure of its Final Fantasy 7 Remake, stating it will be comprised of multiple, full-sized games instead of a series of smaller episodes.
According to the game's Producer, Yoshinori Kitase, the Final Fantasy 7 Remake will use the Final Fantasy XIII series as a blueprint for how the company will release each installment.
Said Kitase:
It will essentially be a full scale game for each part of the multi-part series. In XIII, each installment told the story from a different angle. It was kind of like approaching an unknown territory in a sense.
Whereas with Final Fantasy VII Remake, we already have a preexisting story, so it wouldn't really make sense if that isn't encompassed in a multi-part series... So if we're just looking at each of these parts, one part should be on par with the scale of one Final Fantasy XIII game."
The length of each part was compared to a XIII game that is true, but he said more than that, he said the entire series would be used as a blueprint on how they release each part of the FF7 Remake, so a trilogy.
So for the last time, unless you can present any reasonable argument as to why the leaker who in June leaked the basic plot which apart from Monster Ardyn which was said to be cut from the main game, was spot on about the rest of everything, as well as Shiva being Gentiana which if you had only played the game without looking at the external material you wouldn't have seen it any other way and the 10 year timeskip shown off at the start which would only see at Gamescom in August, he leaked it in June along with the Trial of Titan stuff before E3 (by god Tabata said one coherent story should have stuck with the sequel plan), then there is no reason for anyone to doubt that FFXV was meant to be a multi-part series trilogy or not, and it got condensed into one game to it's detriment not to it's benefit unless you want to tell me poorly fleshed out side characters is a good thing