Final Fantasy XV - General News Thread

[DrBretto]

Really? Ask @Wazithepa why he lost a bet.

I am actually curious. All they showed was the preorder bonuses we already know about. We just hadn't seen them in action. Unless your bet was that the Masamune would be disappointing, I don't know what you're getting at

Also, glad to see "CIDNEY" not "CINDEY".

Yes! This issue bothers me way more than it should, lol. It's oddly important to me.

 

[llazy77]

Long ago in a distant land, I, Wazi, made a bet with @yeah_93, and unleashed an unspeakable evil (I bet there would be no DLC for the game way back when). But a foolish company warrior, wielding Final Fantasy XV, stepped forward to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck..... They announced DLC for the game in March of 2016 so RIP me.

I'm curious why you thought there would be no DLC for this when XIII-2 and LR had so much.

 

[DrBretto]

I used to think that, too. But I've come to realize the AAA market just can't be sustained on $59.95 per copy. Its easy to call them greedy, but the real world is what it is. No profit, no AAA games. DLC and microtransactions aren't going anywhere.

Like anything new, there was an adjustment period. There are certainly games out there that abuse the system. But, more and more, companies have been doing it right and that's all we can hope for. Used responsibly, the system is actually good for everyone. AAA games can continue to be produced. Independent developers have a platform to get their products out there (people are gonna be a lot more likely to try something if it's free at first). It let's people who don't car about their car's paint job to continue paying $59.95, or nothing, and still have fun. People who have more money than sense can get shiny feel good trinkets for their donations. Everyone wins.

I've spent a little bit on optional stuff before. I've always felt like I gotten my money's worth. I've paid in a few bucks for bonuses on games I'd have easily paid full price for, but would never have tried if it wasn't free.

To be fair, I've also played evil money grabbing pay to win games. And let me tell ya, its satisfying as hell, lol. (Some serious competition in that game. Heroes Charge. Deplorable company but the game was addicting as all hell)

 

[AtSwimTwoBirds]

I'm sorry, I couldn't\ hear you over the sound of how awesome that is.

Dragoon? More like Drag-two-n.

That sounded cooler in my head.

 

[DrBretto]

Dragoon? More like Drag-two-n.

That sounded cooler in my head.

It must have, lmao

 

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

Does anyone know if there will be other car skins in the game that we can get that aren't DLC or is the ones that they showed the only ones available with preorder?. I really liked the platinum Leviathan one that they showed off.

 

[DrBretto]

Does anyone know if there will be other car skins in the game that we can get that aren't DLC or is the ones that they showed the only ones available with preorder?. I really liked the platinum Leviathan one that they showed off.

That was my favorite as well (though, seeing the gold chocobo paintjob in action bumps it up to the same level). I'd consider dropping $10 for it, too.

My *guess* is that all of this will be available for purchase separately.. But, that's purely a guess. There's a precedent in FFXIV where the collector's edition stuff is only available by upgrading to the collector's edition, but this isn't going to have an option for switching to the UCE later on or anything. I can't imagine they'll leave the door closed on it when there's money to be made.

 

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

That was my favorite as well (though, seeing the gold chocobo paintjob in action bumps it up to the same level). I'd consider dropping $10 for it, too.

My *guess* is that all of this will be available for purchase separately.. But, that's purely a guess. There's a precedent in FFXIV where the collector's edition stuff is only available by upgrading to the collector's edition, but this isn't going to have an option for switching to the UCE later on or anything. I can't imagine they'll leave the door closed on it when there's money to be made.

No chance of obtaining any different skins in the game world itself though?. Like finding them or Cindy having new ones available for us to purchase with gil?.

 

[DrBretto]

No chance of obtaining any different skins in the game world itself though?. Like finding them or Cindy having new ones available for us to purchase with gil?.

Now that I doubt. I would expect these all to be premium only.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some standard paint colors you could earn in-game, if that's what you mean, but I can't see any of the specific things they showed off yesterday to be anything but premium.

 

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

Now that I doubt. I would expect these all to be premium only.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some standard paint colors you could earn in-game, if that's what you mean, but I can't see any of the specific things they showed off yesterday to be anything but premium.

Yea I am just being too optimistic I guess. Oh well. I guess we will see. Maybe they will surprise us lol. Either way. I am preordering the game so I get to have that awesome Platinum Leviathan Regalia skin which makes me happy. I thought it was sweet as hell. Absolutely cannot wait to play this game.

 

[DrBretto]

Which version did you preorder? I think that was one of the deluxe versions only. It actually made me pause and think about it for a bit. But I preoderdered on PSN, so I don't think I can switch it out.

 

[Nova]

What are your guys' opinion on SE's marketing towards this game?

 

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

Which version did you preorder? I think that was one of the deluxe versions only. It actually made me pause and think about it for a bit. But I preoderdered on PSN, so I don't think I can switch it out.

I haven't pre ordered it yet. I was going to get the deluxe edition which has the platinum Leviathan car skin, the masamune, royal raiment suit, Kingsglaive bluray, and steel case with Amano artwork for 90$.

 

[DrBretto]

What are your guys' opinion on SE's marketing towards this game?

Oh, boy, I'm glad you asked because there was some discussion about this yesterday and this is the only place on the internet where there are people who can comprehend my point.

People are looking at it with too fine a viewpoint. Not seeing the forest for the trees, as is the norm on the internet. Their marketing is dumb like a fox. Which is to say even when they bungle something, it's ending up in their favor. They are doing the one and only thing they need to do and that's keep the game in the forefront of people's minds. They are steadily releasing new things for everyone to talk about, and every time the fanbase freaks out over something (IE, every time something new is mentioned or even hinted at), then we are all doing EXACTLY what they want us to do.

The recent MS demo bungle being the best example of it. It's not that they did it bad on purpose, but all it did was keep the game relevant. That's been their strategy this whole time and it's a brilliant plan. Controversy just means people are talking about it, and people talking about it keeps people gobbling up every little thing they release. Doing it this way, and showing off a lot of behind the scenes unpolished stuff, sets them in position to just make one big kick-ass trailer a couple of weeks before release, with some polished gameplay, completely nullifying all the misses, and turning all of that momentum into sales.

They have us right where they want us. And always have.

 

[DrBretto]

I haven't pre ordered it yet. I was going to get the deluxe edition which has the platinum Leviathan car skin, the masamune, royal raiment suit, Kingsglaive bluray, and steel case with Amano artwork for 90$.

Yeah, that's the one I'm kicking myself for not getting. Though, I'd have preferred a pure digital version of all of that.

 

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

Yeah, that's the one I'm kicking myself for not getting. Though, I'd have preferred a pure digital version of all of that.

I'm assuming you want a digital version so you can play it a bit sooner or something?.

 

[DrBretto]

I'm assuming you want a digital version so you can play it a bit sooner or something?.

No, it's because I can't take care of my shit

 

[Nova]

I genuinely hope they'll explain the whole battle in finer detail in the full game, especially in regards to attacking given thatball they mention is holding it for continues strikes without even mentioning tapping most of the time.

Tired of the Hold O meme.

 

[DrBretto]

I genuinely hope they'll explain the whole battle in finer detail in the full game, especially in regards to attacking given thatball they mention is holding it for continues strikes without even mentioning tapping most of the time.

Tired of the Hold O meme.

The hold O meme was tired the moment it started.

There was a moment during E3 where people misunderstood something in the options menu they showed (They saw three options for combat: Active, Wait and Default) where people were pointing to this option thinking it was a new game mode where you have to tap instead of hold O. They were celebrating like it was this great victory and showing video of people happily tapping away feeling like everything is great.

Only problem is, there is no "default" option. There's a button to reset that option to default. There is only Active and Wait, and the controls weren't changed. They just tapped away thinking everything is normal. They had no idea.

And it goes back further. As no one complained about the hold O thing back when Episode Duscae came out, either. Why? Because people mostly just didn't know that was already an option. The ONLY thing that has changed is in the Platinum Demo, they advertised that you can just hold the button instead. It's never changed, but all of a sudden people had a problem with it.

I talked to a bunch of rational people who complained about it, and they bring up some great-sounding points about it being more responsive to have the 1:1 controls, and I'm sympathetic to that notion. However, it's still a faulty argument in this sense, as the responsiveness of the controls isn't anything to do with the ability to hold O. It's just an alternative to rapid tapping.

This isn't that radical of a thing. I think we've all played the 3d Zelda games, right? In those, you tap tap tap and you perform automatic combos much in the same way. If you notice, it doesn't actually matter how fast you tap at a certain point. You can tappity tappity tappity all day but the combo performs exactly the same way. All SE did was add an optional way to do the same thing with less wear and tear, lol.

 

[Rin]

People in Europe and possibly other regions are getting the same pre-order bonuses as Japan. If you're in the US or Canada (IDK about Mexico), then you're SOL since most of the bonuses don't seem to have made their way there.