I am bump-quoting this execellent reply from Koozek in light of an interesting post I found over on GamFAQ's (yes I know most posts there are absolute trash), but this post I found was quite intriguing.
It shows the English translation of Omnis Lacrima-something I don't think we have discussed here yet-but could link right in with glimpses of things we have seen in trailers before and after the game became XV- and kind of help support the idea that this game is not (massively) different from Versus.
Here is the link just to the lyrics and translation
Here are the lyrics and I have spoiler-tagged the posters speculation in case people don't want that. It is quite interesting though, especially the part which could indicate that there is a direct reference to this song in The Dawn trailer.
"our master has succumbed to endless sleep"
"with him sleep power, sleep our beloved sky, begging for forgiveness"
"can we once again see the dawn"
"defeated our master sleeps and calls his children through his dreams"
"behold the day of glory, at last awakened by the whispers of dawn"
"know that we will fight, we are protected by our goddess"
"behold the day of glory awakened, the coming danger divides us all"
"for our master to find his piece, all is stained in blood"
"rest in piece, rest in piece"
"rest in piece, rest in piece, rest in piece, rest in piece"
:| we shall see, i think it refers to the h*** he will unleash. the return 100x worse than what they did
"eternal, tormenting is his sleep"
Finally, most interesting of all, I think is this response to the post, which if this is accurate, it is potentially a very major lore spoiler as it might reveal exactly who the three figures in the Dawn trailer are and why Tabata said they are very inportant.
The first spoiler is the name of one of the entities; the second is the description of and probable relationship to the other two entities, which is basically an expansion on the info Koozek already mentioned.
Here is my takeaway and the implication from all this: The XV world is basically still the same as the Versus world because remember, Omnis Lacrima was created for Final Fantasy Versus XIII! Therfore a lot, or maybe even most of XV's lore was probably Versus lore as well! This would then validate Tabata-sans assertion from last year that the script and world of FFXV is indeed still based on Nojima's original outline for Versus.
What do you guys think?
It shows the English translation of Omnis Lacrima-something I don't think we have discussed here yet-but could link right in with glimpses of things we have seen in trailers before and after the game became XV- and kind of help support the idea that this game is not (massively) different from Versus.
Here is the link just to the lyrics and translation
Here are the lyrics and I have spoiler-tagged the posters speculation in case people don't want that. It is quite interesting though, especially the part which could indicate that there is a direct reference to this song in The Dawn trailer.
"our master has succumbed to endless sleep"
maybe it gets worse for him, could be related to plague of stars, longer nights, destiny
"with him sleep power, sleep our beloved sky, begging for forgiveness"
maybe it makes him stronger? we dont know all of his abilities, from stars, crystal, family, magic? but things in their world get worse as night gets longer
"can we once again see the dawn"
is there any chance for the plague to stop, or not happen. are they lost and hopeless. no chance of getting through the night
"defeated our master sleeps and calls his children through his dreams"
insomnia does fall, his world crumbling around him, as it says on the main website story synopsis. i wonder if the children bit relates to the 3 entities from the dawn trailer, or the summons? what if when he sleeps, thats when he really controls the summons? or the power of the stars,. i have a feeling that while he sleeps, things happen, directly or indirectly because of him. this is a stretch . maybe as he sleeps he has visions of the summons calling to him needing his help or to be used. or he awakens them, the summons may be a sort of last resort for him after his defeat with insomnia and his father and luna supposedly falling, i can see an epic battle with him having rounded up all of the summons together and unleashing h***
"behold the day of glory, at last awakened by the whispers of dawn"
alluding to something noct has to do eventually, will be glorious/legendary?
"know that we will fight, we are protected by our goddess"
either the goddess on the logo or someone else, obviously a source of power/nocts family abilities/ or his childhood destiny/ related to their family and kingdom in some way not small. maybe religious, maybe crystal involved . they will always stand up and fight against enemies
"behold the day of glory awakened, the coming danger divides us all"
maybe even if noct beats the enemy, and realizes his goal and accomplishes it, he is in a worse place himself, maybe evil, maybe he does something nuts after., maybe it relates to the hidden real bad guy? (hooded man) all of this connected to his destiny, childhood, lineage, family. tangled up, we will see how
"for our master to find his piece, all is stained in blood"
post niflheim conflict? again what i was just referring to, he is in a worse spot later on, maybe he went too far, or something backfired, or he turned evil and epiclly destroyed and became even more badass. or he loses people close to him or something he holds dear, maybe he loses a lot on the way and at the end
"rest in piece, rest in piece"
"rest in piece, rest in piece, rest in piece, rest in piece"
:| we shall see, i think it refers to the h*** he will unleash. the return 100x worse than what they did"eternal, tormenting is his sleep"
Finally, most interesting of all, I think is this response to the post, which if this is accurate, it is potentially a very major lore spoiler as it might reveal exactly who the three figures in the Dawn trailer are and why Tabata said they are very inportant.
The first spoiler is the name of one of the entities; the second is the description of and probable relationship to the other two entities, which is basically an expansion on the info Koozek already mentioned.
Selene
In Greek mythology, Selene is the goddess of the moon. She is the daughter of the Titans Hyperion and Theia, and sister of the sun-god Helios, and Eos, goddess of the dawn. She drives her moon chariot across the heavens. Several lovers are attributed to her in various myths, including Zeus, Pan, and the mortal Endymion. In classical times, Selene was often identified with Artemis, much as her brother, Helios, was identified with Apollo. Both Selene and Artemis were also associated with Hecate, and all three were regarded as lunar goddesses, although only Selene was regarded as the personification of the moon itself. Her Roman equivalent is Luna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selene
Eos: In Greek mythology, Eos is a Titaness and the goddess of the dawn, who rose each morning from her home at the edge of the Oceanus.
Eos had a brother and a sister, Helios, god of the sun, and Selene, goddess of the moon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eos
Helios was the personification of the Sun in Greek mythology. He is the son of the Titan Hyperion and the Titaness Theia (Hesiod) (also known as Euryphaessa (Homeric Hymn 31)) and brother of the goddesses Selene, the moon, and Eos, the dawn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios
There are three distinct deities seen in the Dawn trailer like you've pointed out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selene
Eos: In Greek mythology, Eos is a Titaness and the goddess of the dawn, who rose each morning from her home at the edge of the Oceanus.
Eos had a brother and a sister, Helios, god of the sun, and Selene, goddess of the moon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eos
Helios was the personification of the Sun in Greek mythology. He is the son of the Titan Hyperion and the Titaness Theia (Hesiod) (also known as Euryphaessa (Homeric Hymn 31)) and brother of the goddesses Selene, the moon, and Eos, the dawn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios
There are three distinct deities seen in the Dawn trailer like you've pointed out.
Here is my takeaway and the implication from all this: The XV world is basically still the same as the Versus world because remember, Omnis Lacrima was created for Final Fantasy Versus XIII! Therfore a lot, or maybe even most of XV's lore was probably Versus lore as well! This would then validate Tabata-sans assertion from last year that the script and world of FFXV is indeed still based on Nojima's original outline for Versus.
What do you guys think?
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