Motomu Toriyama Discussion and Rumor Thread

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Sora96

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Maybe Lightning would have been a great character if they didn't give her personality to Fang instead and leave her as an empty husk of a character. Otherwise, she's just a pretty looking character that looks like a female version of Cloud. Aesthetically, I think Lightning is great, but otherwise no.

I agree with Nora here. It's funny, I saw a lot of people a while back complaining that Lightning was added in every game and I defended it by saying "she's in as many games as every other Final Fantasy character is, it's not like she's getting her own spin off games or anything" to defend SE's decisions on including her. This is the same argument pretty much that Nora is using to show why including her isn't necessarily an amazing thing. Not that it's bad, but that it's normal and to be expected.
They aren't 'just' putting her in the usual spin-offs though. They basically made her the main character of 012. Prologus was all about her and WoL and she was the front cover. Lol. She's also been featured in the marketing for Explorers and WoFF which to be clear not Dissida-like games. Unless you can confirm we're getting characters from I-X and XII it's not the case.
 

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They aren't 'just' putting her in the usual spin-offs though. They basically made her the main character of 012. Prologus was all about her and WoL and she was the front cover. Lol. She's also been featured in the marketing for Explorers and WoFF which to be clear not Dissida-like games. Unless you can confirm we're getting characters from I-X and XII it's not the case.
strawman strawman strawman.

You're still missing the point. Just because she's been featured in the marketing doesn't mean the game revolves around her. She wasn't even in the initial trailer for WoFF at E3. She was added later on down the line, who's to say the same can't happen for other characters in the series?
As far as FFEX.... Cloud, Squall, etc. were also featured in the marketing there lol. It's nothing special, including her in these games holds about as much gravitas as including Ifrit or Shiva into them.

Both FFEX and WoFF are very Dissidia-like for this reason lol, please stop being dense.
 
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Sora96

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strawman strawman strawman.

You're still missing the point. Just because she's been featured in the marketing doesn't mean the game revolves around her. She wasn't even in the initial trailer for WoFF at E3. She was added later on down the line, who's to say the same can't happen for other characters in the series?
As far as FFEX.... Cloud, Squall, etc. were also featured in the marketing there lol. It's nothing special, including her in these games holds about as much gravitas as including Ifrit or Shiva into them.

Both FFEX and WoFF are very Dissidia-like for this reason lol, please stop being dense.
No you stop being so dense.

Why the heck would they promote her in their upcoming spin-offs if she was so bad? Would be pretty bad marketing on their part to promote her if she was really like some of you think of her. She's very popular, particularly in Japan and you can't prove that wrong. Just look at the polls they do, she was voted ahead of Tifa in one they officially ran. Tifa.

If Explorers and WoFF are very Dissidia-like then so are Tactics. They have the same amount of characters from other games.

So you stop being so dense.

Final Fantasy XIII series has sold over 11 million copies on consoles and will be over 12 million when you include PC and mobile. Square Enix calls it widely successful.

Motomu Toriyama's games have sold around 30 million copies worldwide and that has earned him a place on the four-person Final Fantasy Committee.

And him and the XIII team are making VII Remake, the most anticipated title from Square Enix. So have fun with that. :p
 
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You can dislike her as much as you want. She's not going anywhere. Toriyama loves her, Kitase loves her (he even said his wife looks like her), Kamikokuryo loves her, Hamauzu loves her, Nomura named her one of his three favourite women in FF recently and Visual Works STILL has a massive poster of her in their studio.
Probably cause they’ve all worked closely with the character. I’m sure they love other characters they have worked closely with as well. You really think these guys only like Lightning and nobody else?
 

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Final Fantasy XIII series has sold over 11 million copies on consoles and will be over 12 million when you include PC and mobile. Square Enix calls it widely successful.

Motomu Toriyama's games have sold around 30 million copies worldwide and that has earned him a place on the four-person Final Fantasy Committee.

And him and the XIII team are making VII Remake, the most anticipated title from Square Enix. So have fun with that. :p
Literally nothing from the post you replied to warranted this response.
 
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