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May I just add another idea I have surrounding the possible connection of Noctis' weapons with the summons- his Armiger ability always struck me to be reminiscent of FFVII's Knights of the Round's summoning sequence (the way he flies in different directions around the enemy using different weapons). I believe some of the weapons' names/descriptions also have Arthurian references? To go even further if you look at both the myth and Noctis' story they're both involving kinghood. Correct me if I'm wrong but Tabata confirmed that collecting all of his weapons is a quest in itself, so what if doing that would give you the power to summon Knights of the Round? And what if the weapons are all connected to the previous Caelum kings, making them the summon itself? (see: XV's myth artwork, the old men at the background)
And good to see Prompto's render upgrade, his new Roxas hairstyle is really a gift. (Cor being cut off is kind of funny)
And good to see Prompto's render upgrade, his new Roxas hairstyle is really a gift. (Cor being cut off is kind of funny)
Cor was always supposed to be a Guest Party member though... He wasn't even supposed to be part of the main party. They just used this render and clipped him off so they didn't need to do any extra work. It's just lazy promotional material... Keep in mind the last few times we've seen those progress reports from XV they've shown Cor off BOTH times.
I'm not really interested in anything XV right now until the event... for reasons like this.
I'm not really interested in anything XV right now until the event... for reasons like this.
Official translation of the last two Dev Blog updates:
http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/creating-3d-monster-final-fantasy-xv
http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/creating-3d-monster-final-fantasy-xv
No, they never said anything about Cor being a normal party member. He was only announced in 2013 as it is, and by then the changes with Stella were already being prepared. The reason he's in the promo art to begin with is because he is one of the many guest characters that will appear in the game. The central theme of the game was always from the start around the main four buddies, Nomura has said this himself when talking about the road trip theme to the game back in the day.
Eventually we'll have a key art with all the party members, but at the time Cor was the only (and still is the only) other party member we have to go on.
Eventually we'll have a key art with all the party members, but at the time Cor was the only (and still is the only) other party member we have to go on.
I don't mean to be contrary, I think you're a pretty cool dude and your insight is usually spot on, but Nomura never mentioned a single thing about Cor being a guest. He said that Cor was one of the main characters and that he would join the party after the rest of the party with no mention whatsoever of being a guest. The dude was featured in the character biographies of the other main party members, and he was in the key art. I don't think it gets much more cut and dry than that.
It's worth noting that at this time Stella was still in the game and so was the rest of the party being playable, all also from interviews with Nomura, so it's not as though things weren't still being cut including Nomura himself.
It's worth noting that at this time Stella was still in the game and so was the rest of the party being playable, all also from interviews with Nomura, so it's not as though things weren't still being cut including Nomura himself.
No no no, it's fine man, I get it. Still, I think this doesn't really necessarily mean he will be a permanent member based on this, he still is a guest party member in this sense, I guess it really depends on how the "guest" system even works in the game. And, like I said, he's in the key art because he's still a party member. This is just how I see it, I guess it's really just semantics, but I don't think he was downgraded in any sense, they have focused on him a lot lately so.
Anyways, it doesn't really matter either way.
Anyways, it doesn't really matter either way.
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You know, you're right. Either way you look at it, it's just splitting hairs. And I mean, you're definitely spot on about the ATR teasers, Tabata went so far as to decline to comment on Cor so they may have big things lined up for him either way in a similar fashion to Luna. Really just biting my nails waiting for the 30th over here...
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First of all, I'd just like to say a quick hello. I have just wandered onto this site as a result of LeonBlade's excellent analysis of the January ATR gameplay trailer, and I've been impressed with the level of discussion here, so you're stuck with me now. 
Anyway, I have a minor quibble/thought relating to the link Death Penalty just linked with Nomura's comments after the reveal trailer. And more specifically in regards to Stella still being included at that point.
I came into this late, meaning I was not following FFXIII-Vs and it didn't hit my radar until the name change. That puts me at a disadvantage for some of the conversation around the game, but in this one instance, I believe it's an advantage as I am able to view the whole timeline from a wider angle and without as much emotional attachment to any individual aspects. I've heard time and time again about how different FFXIII-Vs was compared to FFXV, unfortuntely mostly via gamefaqs, which is full of hyperbolic and hysterical responses to everything ever. However, I believe that belief to be based on a series of misunderstandings and I think the game really is very close to what has been envisioned ever since the project became stable, and conceptually since the very beginning.
I've watched every scrap of footage there is on the internet again and again, and I did it again shortly after the last ATR in the middle of a hype session. This last time, I watched them all in succession and I was positively shocked as to how consistent it was from the moment there was an actual structure of a story written. Keeping a thesis down to a term paper, the only story-related element that appeared to have changed was Stella's removal. More recently, I'm not convinced even that is completely accurate.
Similar to that first scene with Noctis being a badass on the stairs, I believe all PS3 era footage of Stella to be purely conceptual. That is, there was no actual outline of a real story, simply Nomura demonstrating the genesis of his idea, particularly the emotional theme. By the time the first reveal trailer comes out, you're seeing young Stella running through the field and you're clearly seeing the Stella PS4 facial model in the collage at the end, so Nomura was totally right in saying that Stella was still in the game at that point, but that was clearly the role of Luna. Everything that made Stella what she was was already gone. To the point that I imagine that the only reason they renamed the character to Luna was to differentiate this character from the expectations set in the earlier concept shots. Stella wasn't lost to the FFXV conversion. She was lost to the story being written, or more accurately, never existed at all.
The same applies to many other things that have "changed" as a result of the shift in focus, but I believe that people think those things changed because the developers, particularly Nomura, had been very misleading and confusing about their intentions. That shift being an illusion only visible to those who were following closely from the beginning. Honestly, from what I can gather, and believe me, I've done my research, the only thing that has gone past the "what if we..." stage that wasn't included in FFXV is the ability to switch characters on the fly, which is purely a gameplay decision and one that I happen to agree very much with in context with the feel of this game. I feel like it makes it convenient to categorize everything into this shift from FFXIII-vs and Nomura to FFXV and Tabata, but I don't think it's nearly that cut and dry. I very much believe this game actually has been far more consistent than it would appear to anyone who was following it so closely from the beginning, and that it's the story (and other natural factors that arise in the process of converting a basic concept into a solid, tangible work), not the shift, that mandated changes, and that was going to happen no matter what.
Basically, this IS still very much FFXIII-Vs, and anyone who feels like the original was this completely different game is filling in an awful lot of blanks in their own mind to arrive at that conclusion.
Anyway, I have a minor quibble/thought relating to the link Death Penalty just linked with Nomura's comments after the reveal trailer. And more specifically in regards to Stella still being included at that point.
I came into this late, meaning I was not following FFXIII-Vs and it didn't hit my radar until the name change. That puts me at a disadvantage for some of the conversation around the game, but in this one instance, I believe it's an advantage as I am able to view the whole timeline from a wider angle and without as much emotional attachment to any individual aspects. I've heard time and time again about how different FFXIII-Vs was compared to FFXV, unfortuntely mostly via gamefaqs, which is full of hyperbolic and hysterical responses to everything ever. However, I believe that belief to be based on a series of misunderstandings and I think the game really is very close to what has been envisioned ever since the project became stable, and conceptually since the very beginning.
I've watched every scrap of footage there is on the internet again and again, and I did it again shortly after the last ATR in the middle of a hype session. This last time, I watched them all in succession and I was positively shocked as to how consistent it was from the moment there was an actual structure of a story written. Keeping a thesis down to a term paper, the only story-related element that appeared to have changed was Stella's removal. More recently, I'm not convinced even that is completely accurate.
Similar to that first scene with Noctis being a badass on the stairs, I believe all PS3 era footage of Stella to be purely conceptual. That is, there was no actual outline of a real story, simply Nomura demonstrating the genesis of his idea, particularly the emotional theme. By the time the first reveal trailer comes out, you're seeing young Stella running through the field and you're clearly seeing the Stella PS4 facial model in the collage at the end, so Nomura was totally right in saying that Stella was still in the game at that point, but that was clearly the role of Luna. Everything that made Stella what she was was already gone. To the point that I imagine that the only reason they renamed the character to Luna was to differentiate this character from the expectations set in the earlier concept shots. Stella wasn't lost to the FFXV conversion. She was lost to the story being written, or more accurately, never existed at all.
The same applies to many other things that have "changed" as a result of the shift in focus, but I believe that people think those things changed because the developers, particularly Nomura, had been very misleading and confusing about their intentions. That shift being an illusion only visible to those who were following closely from the beginning. Honestly, from what I can gather, and believe me, I've done my research, the only thing that has gone past the "what if we..." stage that wasn't included in FFXV is the ability to switch characters on the fly, which is purely a gameplay decision and one that I happen to agree very much with in context with the feel of this game. I feel like it makes it convenient to categorize everything into this shift from FFXIII-vs and Nomura to FFXV and Tabata, but I don't think it's nearly that cut and dry. I very much believe this game actually has been far more consistent than it would appear to anyone who was following it so closely from the beginning, and that it's the story (and other natural factors that arise in the process of converting a basic concept into a solid, tangible work), not the shift, that mandated changes, and that was going to happen no matter what.
Basically, this IS still very much FFXIII-Vs, and anyone who feels like the original was this completely different game is filling in an awful lot of blanks in their own mind to arrive at that conclusion.
Official blog update, March 18, 2016: "Why LA?" Feature
As the title suggests, Taji approached different people at Square Enix Japan and asked them why LA was chosen as the venue to announce FFXV's release date. After all, FFXV is a Japanese game... right? Some people who were asked: management, development team, PR, Mittsu, even Tabata himself.
Expect an official translation in the coming days.
As the title suggests, Taji approached different people at Square Enix Japan and asked them why LA was chosen as the venue to announce FFXV's release date. After all, FFXV is a Japanese game... right? Some people who were asked: management, development team, PR, Mittsu, even Tabata himself.
Expect an official translation in the coming days.