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So far what we got from the DLCs was exactly what was advertised in their presses, I don't see reason to expect more than that.
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Episode Ignis actually did spoil what happened in the trailer.
We might be able to visit Angelgard. It's a possibility.
There may be more fish that we could catch as well. Id' be all up for that.
I did some searching and reading, and I saw a lot of these arguments pop up.
Somehow, I think that despite all of the complaints, people are still going to buy it anyway.
If the Royal Pack delivers (which I think it will) then reception for the upcoming content, and buyers for that, will increase or at least remain stable with less resistance.
We might be able to visit Angelgard. It's a possibility.
There may be more fish that we could catch as well. Id' be all up for that.
I did some searching and reading, and I saw a lot of these arguments pop up.
Somehow, I think that despite all of the complaints, people are still going to buy it anyway.
If the Royal Pack delivers (which I think it will) then reception for the upcoming content, and buyers for that, will increase or at least remain stable with less resistance.
The speeches from the Phantom Wedding exhibit have official English translations, apparently... and they strongly imply a canon interpretation of the ending.
It seems safe to say now that the wedding is intended to be understood as a heavenly wedding rather than a "final fantasy" or a vision of an alternative outcome. That's one way to turn a seeming tragedy into a "happily ever after," I suppose. XD;
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Can XII really be considered to have been part of FF's golden age? It seems more like the start of the series' current era to me, given its troubled development history and general divisiveness (though I'll admit that I'm a bit biased, given my own issues with the game >_>; ).
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Truuuuue, i probably should have detailed VII-X in the golden age category. I guess i included XII due to critics singing high praises for it back then despite fan reception being a night & day difference (then again you could make a similar argument with VIII anyway).
People would certainly argue that XIII was "the beginning of the end" but i definitely see your point on the current era technically beginning with XII.
People would certainly argue that XIII was "the beginning of the end" but i definitely see your point on the current era technically beginning with XII.
According to my experience with the fandom "how far the golden age of FF goes" tends to be divided on these groups:
- Last game under Hironobu Sakaguchi's supervision (FF9)
- Last game under the Squaresoft brand (FF10)
- Last game before Tetsuya Nomura became "influential" in the series (FF6)
It seems more accurate to say that XIII is an outlier in an otherwise consistent trend that encompasses XII, XIV, and XV.
XII, XIV, and XV were affected by similar issues -- extended development (note that FFXII's development began in 2001 and wasn't completed until 2006) that resulted in major conceptual shifts (like FFXII's choice of main character), changes in leadership (Matsuno left in the middle of FFXII's development), and significant post-release work being done to respond to issues that fans had with the game (like FFXII's generally-disliked license board). FFXIII doesn't fit into that same model; its period of development wasn't unusually long for an HD game (even if only a fraction of it ended up being properly utilized), it seemed to have been developed on the fly rather than transformed from a significantly different original concept, it retained the same leadership throughout, and it was not given the opportunity to redeem itself as a game (even if it had sequels that responded to some of the issues that fans complained about).
Yeah, that's the impression I had, too.
XII, XIV, and XV were affected by similar issues -- extended development (note that FFXII's development began in 2001 and wasn't completed until 2006) that resulted in major conceptual shifts (like FFXII's choice of main character), changes in leadership (Matsuno left in the middle of FFXII's development), and significant post-release work being done to respond to issues that fans had with the game (like FFXII's generally-disliked license board). FFXIII doesn't fit into that same model; its period of development wasn't unusually long for an HD game (even if only a fraction of it ended up being properly utilized), it seemed to have been developed on the fly rather than transformed from a significantly different original concept, it retained the same leadership throughout, and it was not given the opportunity to redeem itself as a game (even if it had sequels that responded to some of the issues that fans complained about).
Yeah, that's the impression I had, too.
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its only normal that the most divisive FFs were also the titles that made the most drastic changes to the formula, and the ones that suffered development issues while taking a lot to come out
XII had a change of directors
XIII engine problems that limited the overall design
XIV 1.0 mismanaged
XV well... fucking 10 years, changed director, got rebranded
as much as i really love the latter FFs and their ideas (I actually prefer the newer ones), i have to agree the older ones were overall better realized games.
XII had a change of directors
XIII engine problems that limited the overall design
XIV 1.0 mismanaged
XV well... fucking 10 years, changed director, got rebranded
as much as i really love the latter FFs and their ideas (I actually prefer the newer ones), i have to agree the older ones were overall better realized games.
I think I'd divide FF into these periods.
First Period; Final Fantasy 1 to 3, the series' genesis period when the basics were being fleshed out.
Second Period; Final Fantasy 4 to 6, the time when everything was flowing well and the series established more of its current identity.
Third Period; Final Fantasy 7 to 9, the peak of the series popularity and market dominance.
Fourth Period; FF 10 to 12, mainly dominated by spin-off projects such as the Compilation and basically when FF full expanded beyond the main series.
Fifth Period; FF 13 to 15, a time of strife and reorganisation compounded by development problems and a changing gaming landscape.
Sixth Period; We're in it now. And who knows what comes next.
I'd like to add to this that XIV's use of Crystal Tools (totally unsuitable engine for MMO or even open world development without extensive overhauling) didn't help matters.
First Period; Final Fantasy 1 to 3, the series' genesis period when the basics were being fleshed out.
Second Period; Final Fantasy 4 to 6, the time when everything was flowing well and the series established more of its current identity.
Third Period; Final Fantasy 7 to 9, the peak of the series popularity and market dominance.
Fourth Period; FF 10 to 12, mainly dominated by spin-off projects such as the Compilation and basically when FF full expanded beyond the main series.
Fifth Period; FF 13 to 15, a time of strife and reorganisation compounded by development problems and a changing gaming landscape.
Sixth Period; We're in it now. And who knows what comes next.
I'd like to add to this that XIV's use of Crystal Tools (totally unsuitable engine for MMO or even open world development without extensive overhauling) didn't help matters.
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