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I agree with a few of you where I prefer more stats, after all, I started playing RPG when stats were important and I enjoyed checking at my progress and tweak little things here and there to improve stats, one of the main reasons FFXIV:ARR is so attractive to me.
I really hope that the Final Fantasy can continue with more stat-base gameplay, but as some had pointed out, as the series getting more "casual", the more they cut down this kind of stuff. I personally prefer they have main series FF remaining with stats, with side FF venture off with more creative gameplay; unfortunately they seem to be doing exactly the opposite.
I really hope that the Final Fantasy can continue with more stat-base gameplay, but as some had pointed out, as the series getting more "casual", the more they cut down this kind of stuff. I personally prefer they have main series FF remaining with stats, with side FF venture off with more creative gameplay; unfortunately they seem to be doing exactly the opposite.
I knew who made this thread just after seeing the title ;p
Honestly, it's really silly, but still a notch above GAF arguing that Persona 5 will be better because of flashier menu.
Honestly, it's really silly, but still a notch above GAF arguing that Persona 5 will be better because of flashier menu.
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I ask, if there´s a RPG1 with 25 stats vs RPG2 with 30 stats, which one is the better RPG ? I´m very sure that Skyrim success has nothing to do with its 20 stats.
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Any other gaming forum is better than GAF by a long shot, no contest.
Adding to this comment of mine, i will make a comparison with 2 other games, Persona 3 and 4.
Both games have the following stats in common :
There´s a majority agreement in that between Persona 4 and Persona 3, the former is superior to the later. However, Persona 3, apart from having the 13 common stats it also has the Physical attack divided in 3 categories (slash, pierce, strike) as well as having a stamina stat system (not presented in P4) divided in 4 categories (great, good, tired, sick) making a total of 20 stats. Despite P3 having a total of 20 stats, P4 (with its 13 stats) it´s considered a superior game with superior "substance" in gameplay.
Adding to this comment of mine, i will make a comparison with 2 other games, Persona 3 and 4.
Both games have the following stats in common :
- St (strenght)
- Ma (magic)
- En (endure)
- Ag (agility)
- Lu (luck)
- a total of six stats elements (fire,wind,ice,thunder,light,darkness)
- Physical attack
- A bunch of status ailment (silence, poison, berserk and many more, both games have the same ammount)
There´s a majority agreement in that between Persona 4 and Persona 3, the former is superior to the later. However, Persona 3, apart from having the 13 common stats it also has the Physical attack divided in 3 categories (slash, pierce, strike) as well as having a stamina stat system (not presented in P4) divided in 4 categories (great, good, tired, sick) making a total of 20 stats. Despite P3 having a total of 20 stats, P4 (with its 13 stats) it´s considered a superior game with superior "substance" in gameplay.
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Even GameFAQ? 
The forum is not loaded with nothing but bad and dumb posters. There are plenty of good and smart posters as well. Perhaps seek out the good posters and ignore the bad ones? That's what I do.
The forum is not loaded with nothing but bad and dumb posters. There are plenty of good and smart posters as well. Perhaps seek out the good posters and ignore the bad ones? That's what I do.
Also please don't claim Skyrim is a example of people liking complex RPG stuff in their games. Skyrim is so dumbed down it's not even funny.
Since Morrowind the Elder Scrolls series has been getting dumber and dumber.
For real tho, Skyrim only has 3 stats you "level", Stamina, Magic and Health.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Differences_Between_Morrowind,_Oblivion,_and_Skyrim
It breaks my heart every time I go through that list, how much they ruined the series.
Since Morrowind the Elder Scrolls series has been getting dumber and dumber.
For real tho, Skyrim only has 3 stats you "level", Stamina, Magic and Health.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Differences_Between_Morrowind,_Oblivion,_and_Skyrim
It breaks my heart every time I go through that list, how much they ruined the series.
@Lumina: You forgot to mention that both Persona 3 & 4 have five additional "social stats" (Courage, Diligence, Knowledge, Expression and Understanding in P4's case) that are a necessity for doing the social link stuff.
It also needs to be mentioned that western-style RPGs tend to have more stats because they check nearly anything against some sort of stat, unlike jRPG where stats matter primarily in combat, except for some games like Persona.
It also needs to be mentioned that western-style RPGs tend to have more stats because they check nearly anything against some sort of stat, unlike jRPG where stats matter primarily in combat, except for some games like Persona.
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GameFAQ is a forum? I guess it is... wow... I never consider it as a forum, despite I go there and check for random things once in a while. I just treat it as a place where people leaving comments. I guess my brain just shuts everything off when it comes to negative space like that. Weird how our brain works.
Except the demo has HP, MP, Attack, Defence and Critical stats, also Speed stats were mentioned in an interview confirming we can use buffs from camping to increase the speed stat, not to mention activating phantom sword increases your speed, attack and defence stat while it's expending MP.
And he didn't say magic doesn't use stats, he said magic doesn't use the MP bar that is used for phantom sword, warping and abilities.
Magic spells uses magical rings and will still need w stat to determine damage output, while MP is still a stat for phantom sword, abilities and warping.
So at the very least we have HP, MP Attack, Defence, Speed, Critical and another stat for magic spells which will most likely be Intelligence.
And he didn't say magic doesn't use stats, he said magic doesn't use the MP bar that is used for phantom sword, warping and abilities.
Magic spells uses magical rings and will still need w stat to determine damage output, while MP is still a stat for phantom sword, abilities and warping.
So at the very least we have HP, MP Attack, Defence, Speed, Critical and another stat for magic spells which will most likely be Intelligence.
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