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I'm really not a fan of this real fashion company stuff. 
And that Noctis is a prince. Have you seen a prince nowadays? They do have a taste for fashion...
Here are some examples:
Prince Carl Philip of Sweden
And this guy is not a prince, but the son of a princess. Still, royalty.
Andrea Casiraghi of Monaco
Sorry for all the fashion photos, specially since you dislike them lol. I was just trying to get my point across.
I get your point... I just don't like it. Again, I'm not particularly a fan of the fantasy based on reality thing in general. The fact there's real Tokyo Police cars hanging out in the E3 footage bums me out. Spoiler: My favourite FFs are 9, 7, 6, and 12 - so I'm not too big on the modern stuff, I guess.
It's not like they'll keep those style cars in the game, I'm sure they will modify them, and it's not even an issue in my opinion, they're just cars after all. I personally enjoy the clothing style, I enjoy the crazy designs, but I like this more simpler approach that fits the characters for who they are.
Also, if Final Fantasy VII was done today... it would look a lot like XV is shaping up to be, hello Midgar.
Also, if Final Fantasy VII was done today... it would look a lot like XV is shaping up to be, hello Midgar.
I don't really agree with this. Square retconned a lot of the vehicles that appear in the background in Advent Children to be normal and boring, and there are a few exceptions in FF7 (Cloud's Bike, the Truck that he & Zack escape in), but the truth is a lot of the vehicle design in FF7 is pretty fantastical:
My point is this: every one of those has these lovely design quirks that make it a fit for FF7's universe. They tell stories, in a sense - the little buggy car that Tifa, Aeris, Barret & Red ride out of Midgar is old, decrepit, and probably a remnant of the days before ShinRa was manufacturing everything. The cars and other ShinRa made vehicles all have this strong steampunk thread running through their design - strange piping, smoke that hisses and wheezes with every movement, and non-aerodynamic design that just looks damn cool.
FF8, another realism-driven game, is the same - we've got these wonderfully boxy, unrealistic military vehicles, with the cars for the citizen class a sort of often-bulbous, vaguely disconnected take on the car designs of the 60s... and later on it goes to full-blown sci-fi-looking cars, with these nuts blown-out headlamps and windows to give an almost spaceship-like vibe and things. The trains have a flair that absolutely belongs to the same world that produced Balamb Garden.
Then in FF15, we thus far have this:
Which, let's make no mistake, is this:
It bums me out. Flat out, straight up. Bums me out. Saying I'm sure they'll modify them is nuts. Maybe they will, yeah - but sure? That's a high-poly model. It probably took 40 or 50 man hours to make, if not more. They're not just going to bin it, most likely. It's a conscious design choice. I respect it - but I don't really like it.
They did change the car Noctis and friends are in. That flicked between the very first trailers way back in 2009 or so. However, they merely changed it from being based off/inspired by a Mercedes S Class to being based off/inspired by an Audi R8 (I like cars, can you tell?). This probably happened either because the game was taking so long the model of Merc they based it off was now out of date (and in around 2010, the R8 was 'the' car to have in that sort of class), or perhaps even because Mercedes pulled them up on it. Either way, they switched out a design based heavily on one real car for another.
It's a bummer. I hope there's significantly different, more fantastical vehicle design elsewhere.
The reason it matters to me is pretty simple: design work like the wonderful steampunky world of FF7, or the vehicle design of FF8 (one of my favourite bits of the game, in truth) are part of why I come to Final Fantasy in the first place; even when it went more grounded, as in 8, it clung tightly to brilliant, outlandish design.
Also, I get what you're saying RE Midgar, but, again, I cannot agree. Is this really what Midgar would look like if it was made today? Midgar was based off New York, and FF7 began life as a New York detective story, but it doesn't really resemble New York in any real material sense. Whereas FF15's Kingdoms are partially based off present-day Japan, and... well, this post from earlier in the thread has it covered - a lot of the buildings we've seen so far in FF15 are based on real Japanese buildings.
I can't help but be a little bummed out. I'm excited for the game, but I wish they weren't going in this direction.
My point is this: every one of those has these lovely design quirks that make it a fit for FF7's universe. They tell stories, in a sense - the little buggy car that Tifa, Aeris, Barret & Red ride out of Midgar is old, decrepit, and probably a remnant of the days before ShinRa was manufacturing everything. The cars and other ShinRa made vehicles all have this strong steampunk thread running through their design - strange piping, smoke that hisses and wheezes with every movement, and non-aerodynamic design that just looks damn cool.
FF8, another realism-driven game, is the same - we've got these wonderfully boxy, unrealistic military vehicles, with the cars for the citizen class a sort of often-bulbous, vaguely disconnected take on the car designs of the 60s... and later on it goes to full-blown sci-fi-looking cars, with these nuts blown-out headlamps and windows to give an almost spaceship-like vibe and things. The trains have a flair that absolutely belongs to the same world that produced Balamb Garden.
Then in FF15, we thus far have this:
Which, let's make no mistake, is this:
It bums me out. Flat out, straight up. Bums me out. Saying I'm sure they'll modify them is nuts. Maybe they will, yeah - but sure? That's a high-poly model. It probably took 40 or 50 man hours to make, if not more. They're not just going to bin it, most likely. It's a conscious design choice. I respect it - but I don't really like it.
They did change the car Noctis and friends are in. That flicked between the very first trailers way back in 2009 or so. However, they merely changed it from being based off/inspired by a Mercedes S Class to being based off/inspired by an Audi R8 (I like cars, can you tell?). This probably happened either because the game was taking so long the model of Merc they based it off was now out of date (and in around 2010, the R8 was 'the' car to have in that sort of class), or perhaps even because Mercedes pulled them up on it. Either way, they switched out a design based heavily on one real car for another.
It's a bummer. I hope there's significantly different, more fantastical vehicle design elsewhere.
The reason it matters to me is pretty simple: design work like the wonderful steampunky world of FF7, or the vehicle design of FF8 (one of my favourite bits of the game, in truth) are part of why I come to Final Fantasy in the first place; even when it went more grounded, as in 8, it clung tightly to brilliant, outlandish design.
Also, I get what you're saying RE Midgar, but, again, I cannot agree. Is this really what Midgar would look like if it was made today? Midgar was based off New York, and FF7 began life as a New York detective story, but it doesn't really resemble New York in any real material sense. Whereas FF15's Kingdoms are partially based off present-day Japan, and... well, this post from earlier in the thread has it covered - a lot of the buildings we've seen so far in FF15 are based on real Japanese buildings.
I can't help but be a little bummed out. I'm excited for the game, but I wish they weren't going in this direction.
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Have you not seen the Niflheim machines and airships? They seem to be exactly what you're looking for. Will come back after work with a more in-depth reply about the situation, but I'd just like to say outright that I'm tickled they're going for a modern, realistic design simply because this is ground that FF has not tread yet, and I value the fact that the series is so willing to continue seeking settings that are different than what they've always done before.
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While I see where you're going with this, and I understand the police car thing, I still expect them to change it somewhat.
Regardless, what about THESE things:
It's not like everything we've seen has been super realistic or something... The only time I've ever seen anyone even complain about the police cars apart from this was a report from Kotaku from "Japanese Gamers" which was just 2chan, the 4chan equivalent (and original) of Japan where they also made fun of the main cast for being like people you would see at a host bar (homosexual implications) and is something I don't take seriously.
Edit: Let me just reiterate, I agree with you and don't want to say that your opinion is wrong in any way, I'm just hoping/assuming SE will change the police cars for the full version is all! We'll have to wait and see.
Regardless, what about THESE things:
It's not like everything we've seen has been super realistic or something... The only time I've ever seen anyone even complain about the police cars apart from this was a report from Kotaku from "Japanese Gamers" which was just 2chan, the 4chan equivalent (and original) of Japan where they also made fun of the main cast for being like people you would see at a host bar (homosexual implications) and is something I don't take seriously.
Edit: Let me just reiterate, I agree with you and don't want to say that your opinion is wrong in any way, I'm just hoping/assuming SE will change the police cars for the full version is all! We'll have to wait and see.
They purposely designed those to look like the real police cars. They're not going to change it.
I like this mixture of real and fantasy.
I like this mixture of real and fantasy.
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Shimomura really is the person most suited to FF other than Uematsu, at least of the 'famous' ones. I'd still love to see Mitsuda tackle FF though - unlikely now - and I think Ishimoto is still the natural successor to Uematsu's sound if you want to emulate his style, but I still think Shimomura is just perfect for 15. I enjoyed Hamazu's work, but I never felt it was a fit, at least not for the entire OST (his contributions to FFX were very welcome).