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I hope this means the Comrades updates are close behind. Would be an awesome surprise to get both this and the updates.
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That's not first time Square has "been inspired" by other music. A few of FFXIVs boss battles ripped from other songs such as Sephirot's battle and Good Moogle King battle. To be fair Shota Nakama built his career preforming other peoples work.
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The "master" build (Q/A) has been updated in the past couple of days, so a new game update should drop in the next little while. Could be the Vulkan version they've been working on.
Blinding Awesomess was sharing these prototype KG screenshots on discord and there's an interesting thing about the reaper statue (no old king look like it)
considering that we see a lot of these giant robed figures, here's my take (please ignore Nyx's derp face); its possible that the old kings didnt exist back then, instead the grim reapers (the robed figures) had a similar role of defending the city (bond by the pact the kingdom had with Etro).
as it was stated before, the people of Insomnia believed in shinigami and the city was full of allusions to them (and it's still the case even in the final version).
the Myth mural has reapers killing daemons but the curious thing is that one of them is harming a summon, and the same is true in this picture where shiva lies on the ground with tons of spears alongside two robed winged figures, which then brings to my other point:
summons were guardians of specific nations before instead of general protectors of the planet, so i assume Niflheim, having controlled all the other nations, had the summons somehow at their disposal and thats why the reapers are depicted fighting some of them. Odin was probably Lucis summon (his name was in the datamine in the list, also death related), and Niflheim had Bahamut as their main one; would explain the emblem and this art:
here i think they just reused an old asset, but you can notice the similarities with the statue from the early Kingsglave image above to the broken figure in Leide...
the final game and movie still has figures and art depictions of reapers
the statue inside the aquarium tank in the party scene of Kingsglaive is also a statue of a grim reaper (even though you can't see it) according to the artist who worked on it; theres also this on Nyx's room.
hard to say if they scrapped this whole deal with them entirely (the datamined Terra Battle collab event involved one) or simply toned down due to censorship but im inclined to believe the old kings kinda replaced their role in the story (giant spiritual entities asking for sacrifices?) because of the difference in the early/final KG screen.
to be honest not a bad trade if this is how it went, the kings are epic but i think the summons having allegiances to certain nations would be more interesting if my theory is true.
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even Stella was in KG pre-production
thanks for reading my late-night ramblings lol
(final version)
(prototype)
considering that we see a lot of these giant robed figures, here's my take (please ignore Nyx's derp face); its possible that the old kings didnt exist back then, instead the grim reapers (the robed figures) had a similar role of defending the city (bond by the pact the kingdom had with Etro).
as it was stated before, the people of Insomnia believed in shinigami and the city was full of allusions to them (and it's still the case even in the final version).
the Myth mural has reapers killing daemons but the curious thing is that one of them is harming a summon, and the same is true in this picture where shiva lies on the ground with tons of spears alongside two robed winged figures, which then brings to my other point:
summons were guardians of specific nations before instead of general protectors of the planet, so i assume Niflheim, having controlled all the other nations, had the summons somehow at their disposal and thats why the reapers are depicted fighting some of them. Odin was probably Lucis summon (his name was in the datamine in the list, also death related), and Niflheim had Bahamut as their main one; would explain the emblem and this art:
here i think they just reused an old asset, but you can notice the similarities with the statue from the early Kingsglave image above to the broken figure in Leide...
the final game and movie still has figures and art depictions of reapers
(this is exactly the same art datamined by XZero)
the statue inside the aquarium tank in the party scene of Kingsglaive is also a statue of a grim reaper (even though you can't see it) according to the artist who worked on it; theres also this on Nyx's room.
hard to say if they scrapped this whole deal with them entirely (the datamined Terra Battle collab event involved one) or simply toned down due to censorship but im inclined to believe the old kings kinda replaced their role in the story (giant spiritual entities asking for sacrifices?) because of the difference in the early/final KG screen.
to be honest not a bad trade if this is how it went, the kings are epic but i think the summons having allegiances to certain nations would be more interesting if my theory is true.
+Bonus
even Stella was in KG pre-production
thanks for reading my late-night ramblings lol
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They're switching to Vulkan from DX11 (or at least adding it as an option). If you scroll down the history, you can find times they've referenced it, such as here, and here. From the configuration tab, it looks like it'll be a new executable called ffxv_sv.exe rather than ffxv_s.exe
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Thanks for this, this is really interesting! I really wish they were able to keep more of this kind of imagery in the final version. Are there any more prototype screenshots like this?
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someone was sharing these prototype KG screenshots and there's an interesting thing about the reaper statue (no old king look like it)
considering that we see a lot of these giant robed figures, here's my take (please ignore Nyx's derp face); its possible that the old kings didnt exist back then, instead the grim reapers (the robed figures) had a similar role of defending the city (bond by the pact the kingdom had with Etro).
as it was stated before, the people of Insomnia believed in shinigami and the city was full of allusions to them (and it's still the case even in the final version).
the Myth mural has reapers killing daemons but the curious thing is that one of them is harming a summon, and the same is true in this picture where shiva lies on the ground with tons of spears alongside two robed winged figures, which then brings to my other point:
summons were guardians of specific nations before instead of general protectors of the planet, so i assume Niflheim, having controlled all the other nations, had the summons somehow at their disposal and thats why the reapers are depicted fighting some of them. Odin was probably Lucis summon (his name was in the datamine in the list, also death related), and Niflheim had Bahamut as their main one; would explain the emblem and this art:
here i think they just reused an old asset, but you can notice the similarities with the statue from the early Kingsglave image above to the broken figure in Leide...
the final game and movie still has figures and art depictions of reapers
the statue inside the aquarium tank in the party scene of Kingsglaive is also a statue of a grim reaper (even though you can't see it) according to the artist who worked on it; theres also this on Nyx's room.
hard to say if they scrapped this whole deal with them entirely (the datamined Terra Battle collab event involved one) or simply toned down due to censorship but im inclined to believe the old kings kinda replaced their role in the story (giant spiritual entities asking for sacrifices?) because of the difference in the early/final KG screen.
to be honest not a bad trade if this is how it went, the kings are epic but i think the summons having allegiances to certain nations would be more interesting if my theory is true.
+Bonus
even Stella was in KG pre-production
thanks for reading my late-night ramblings lol
(final version)
(prototype)
considering that we see a lot of these giant robed figures, here's my take (please ignore Nyx's derp face); its possible that the old kings didnt exist back then, instead the grim reapers (the robed figures) had a similar role of defending the city (bond by the pact the kingdom had with Etro).
as it was stated before, the people of Insomnia believed in shinigami and the city was full of allusions to them (and it's still the case even in the final version).
the Myth mural has reapers killing daemons but the curious thing is that one of them is harming a summon, and the same is true in this picture where shiva lies on the ground with tons of spears alongside two robed winged figures, which then brings to my other point:
summons were guardians of specific nations before instead of general protectors of the planet, so i assume Niflheim, having controlled all the other nations, had the summons somehow at their disposal and thats why the reapers are depicted fighting some of them. Odin was probably Lucis summon (his name was in the datamine in the list, also death related), and Niflheim had Bahamut as their main one; would explain the emblem and this art:
here i think they just reused an old asset, but you can notice the similarities with the statue from the early Kingsglave image above to the broken figure in Leide...
the final game and movie still has figures and art depictions of reapers
(this is exactly the same art datamined by XZero)
the statue inside the aquarium tank in the party scene of Kingsglaive is also a statue of a grim reaper (even though you can't see it) according to the artist who worked on it; theres also this on Nyx's room.
hard to say if they scrapped this whole deal with them entirely (the datamined Terra Battle collab event involved one) or simply toned down due to censorship but im inclined to believe the old kings kinda replaced their role in the story (giant spiritual entities asking for sacrifices?) because of the difference in the early/final KG screen.
to be honest not a bad trade if this is how it went, the kings are epic but i think the summons having allegiances to certain nations would be more interesting if my theory is true.
+Bonus
even Stella was in KG pre-production
thanks for reading my late-night ramblings lol
Looking at it, I don't think the Grim Reapers were intended to represent Etro herself or her servants directly. They were probably symbolic representations of the dead. That specific imagery needed to be toned down so the game wasn't accused of being inappropriate (I know, people are silly), so they switched it to be more obviously about ancestral worship, which has examples in multiple religions and mythologies.
This all fits in with what was said about how the original mythos' thematic elements were retained while the terminology was scrapped. They kept in as much as they could, and I'm glad all the reaper imagery wasn't removed.
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someone was sharing these prototype KG screenshots and there's an interesting thing about the reaper statue (no old king look like it)
considering that we see a lot of these giant robed figures, here's my take (please ignore Nyx's derp face); its possible that the old kings didnt exist back then, instead the grim reapers (the robed figures) had a similar role of defending the city (bond by the pact the kingdom had with Etro).
as it was stated before, the people of Insomnia believed in shinigami and the city was full of allusions to them (and it's still the case even in the final version).
the Myth mural has reapers killing daemons but the curious thing is that one of them is harming a summon, and the same is true in this picture where shiva lies on the ground with tons of spears alongside two robed winged figures, which then brings to my other point:
summons were guardians of specific nations before instead of general protectors of the planet, so i assume Niflheim, having controlled all the other nations, had the summons somehow at their disposal and thats why the reapers are depicted fighting some of them. Odin was probably Lucis summon (his name was in the datamine in the list, also death related), and Niflheim had Bahamut as their main one; would explain the emblem and this art:
here i think they just reused an old asset, but you can notice the similarities with the statue from the early Kingsglave image above to the broken figure in Leide...
the final game and movie still has figures and art depictions of reapers
the statue inside the aquarium tank in the party scene of Kingsglaive is also a statue of a grim reaper (even though you can't see it) according to the artist who worked on it; theres also this on Nyx's room.
hard to say if they scrapped this whole deal with them entirely (the datamined Terra Battle collab event involved one) or simply toned down due to censorship but im inclined to believe the old kings kinda replaced their role in the story (giant spiritual entities asking for sacrifices?) because of the difference in the early/final KG screen.
to be honest not a bad trade if this is how it went, the kings are epic but i think the summons having allegiances to certain nations would be more interesting if my theory is true.
+Bonus
even Stella was in KG pre-production
thanks for reading my late-night ramblings lol
(final version)
(prototype)
considering that we see a lot of these giant robed figures, here's my take (please ignore Nyx's derp face); its possible that the old kings didnt exist back then, instead the grim reapers (the robed figures) had a similar role of defending the city (bond by the pact the kingdom had with Etro).
as it was stated before, the people of Insomnia believed in shinigami and the city was full of allusions to them (and it's still the case even in the final version).
the Myth mural has reapers killing daemons but the curious thing is that one of them is harming a summon, and the same is true in this picture where shiva lies on the ground with tons of spears alongside two robed winged figures, which then brings to my other point:
summons were guardians of specific nations before instead of general protectors of the planet, so i assume Niflheim, having controlled all the other nations, had the summons somehow at their disposal and thats why the reapers are depicted fighting some of them. Odin was probably Lucis summon (his name was in the datamine in the list, also death related), and Niflheim had Bahamut as their main one; would explain the emblem and this art:
here i think they just reused an old asset, but you can notice the similarities with the statue from the early Kingsglave image above to the broken figure in Leide...
the final game and movie still has figures and art depictions of reapers
(this is exactly the same art datamined by XZero)
the statue inside the aquarium tank in the party scene of Kingsglaive is also a statue of a grim reaper (even though you can't see it) according to the artist who worked on it; theres also this on Nyx's room.
hard to say if they scrapped this whole deal with them entirely (the datamined Terra Battle collab event involved one) or simply toned down due to censorship but im inclined to believe the old kings kinda replaced their role in the story (giant spiritual entities asking for sacrifices?) because of the difference in the early/final KG screen.
to be honest not a bad trade if this is how it went, the kings are epic but i think the summons having allegiances to certain nations would be more interesting if my theory is true.
+Bonus
even Stella was in KG pre-production
thanks for reading my late-night ramblings lol
Also there was never a huge focus on "reapers" themselves, rather it was just Etro that was worshipped as part of the FNC connection that it was using, and Etro is the goddess of death in the FNC, which in Japanese is called Shinigami, which also sometimes is translated as "reapers", which is the only reason the whole "omg there was reapers!?" ever became a thing, even though it was just Etro, and the painting of Etro was just adorned by a stature of a more familiar visage of one.
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i know that, it was just for the sake of comparison with the early production screen with the creepy figure.
i would have to disagree with that since you can see giant robed winged figures in previous artworks; even that panel just discovered with a grim reaper giving something to a human indicates they were real creatures.
im not sure if Stella was totally placeholder or they simply planned to not change her design too much initially?
i would have to disagree with that since you can see giant robed winged figures in previous artworks; even that panel just discovered with a grim reaper giving something to a human indicates they were real creatures.
im not sure if Stella was totally placeholder or they simply planned to not change her design too much initially?
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