If Noctis' purpose is that of a sin eater, then why doesn't Regis seem to care? You mentioned previously that he would show more concern over the death of someone he knows (Luna) but doesn't need to care over the sacrifice of his own son?
Regis knew enough about what would become of Noct to mourn his destiny when he was still a child, per the Dawn trailer.
And it's not like he doesn't care at all; there's clearly a certain amount of bitterness in his voice when he asks the voice how many must die. What's notable is that he sounds resigned throughout, which wouldn't really make sense if the voice had just revealed that it intended to kill someone he cared about but could make sense if he'd already known that person would have to die and been forced to accept it years before.
What makes Noctis so special that he needs to become a battery for chaos?
"The Stars chose the Son to be their light."
What purpose does the Oracle have then?
The Oracle holds back the Plague of the Stars but can't seem to stop it once and for all without the King.
And if the Oracle and the King must be together always to stop the advancing darkness, then how does that fit with having Noctis deal with it himself and then lead to self-sacrifice. I just don't see where any of this comes together to make a cohesive narrative.
This, I can't say for sure, but missing information doesn't necessarily mean there's no coherent narrative to be found.
I mean, the answer could be as simple as the Lucii simply not recognizing the value of the Oracle because that's a Tenebrae thing, with Noct eventually recognizing that there's a better way because of the time he spent with Luna.
My point was just to clear up things you were wrong about. The Crystal is not the gift of the King, Martyr has many implications, etc. They are not part of this theory, there's nothing that connects them together. To put it another way, none of those points form any connection.
I didn't have enough time to address tangential points when responding last time, but I feel the need to point out that my fault was in positing speculation as fact, not in saying things known to be wrong.
It's possible that the gift of the martyr king was something other than the crystal, true. But it's also possible that his people saw it as his gift even if he himself received it from the gods. And the language used strongly suggests that, whether the gift referred to the crystal or not, it was given in the distant past instead of being recent.
Either way, the inscription still links the role of the king with martyrdom and therefore death, which is what's most relevant to the matter at hand.
Yes, and Lucis is a city that worships reapers and death, where does that fit in with this narrative?
Worshipping death is unusual enough that it warrants some sort of explanation as to why people would do such a thing in the first place.
And, conveniently enough, a strong association between royalty and death is exactly the sort of thing that could drive that dynamic. It's human nature to try to justify the social order, and viewing death in a positive light because the people in power are the ones called to publicly give their lives for the greater good seems like exactly the sort of justification people might make.
In any case, Lucis' affiliation with death is clearly connected to its kings' affiliation with death. It certainly doesn't meaningfully undercut Noct's own heavy affiliations.
Noctis being associated with sleep also shares a direct connection to "the figure asleep in the fantasy" and the sleeping figure on the logo for the game (which isn't Eos by the way).
The sleeping figure was heavily implied to have been Etro back when the game was Versus XIII, which only deepens the death connections.
Yes, Noctis definitely does have an association with Death, but so doesn't the Lucis line in general. The only thing that separates Noctis is his near-death experience and things that make him special. The Lucii ring granting the user the ability to cast Death is enough to show that the imagery and usage of death and Lucis it's not tied to Noctis alone.
I don't see how the death imagery being tied to the line of Lucis really contradicts my position that his role as part of that line could require his life...?
I mean, the impression I get is that Noct is sort of intended to be the fulfillment of the Lucis line -- the True King who will overcome the darkness on "the night when all comes to naught." As such, the Lucis imagery would all be designed to point to him and his role and the general death associations would be just as applicable him as his individual associations.
What I can summarize from your speculation is that you believe that Noctis must absorb the Plague of Darkness into himself and then sacrifice himself to save the world. This theory in part is based around the events of the Omen trailer.
Not quite -- my theory is that this is what the Lucii intend to happen. I suspect the way it actually turns out will be rather different.
None of the other sacrifices are accounted for or explained in this theory. Luna's death is not accounted for or explained in this theory.
Sure they are. The other sacrifices (including Luna's) are the lives that will be lost in turning Noct into that daemon. There doesn't really need to be more to it than that given that the voice apparently only cares about one death and the endgame of Noct as King anyway.
I'm very much open to different ideas for the story, however, I don't see reason to believe that Omen has any implications on this theory.
Huh? The Omen trailer -- largely through its introduction of daemon Noct -- is the only reason why that sort of theory would even come up. The theory's consistent with the other stuff we know in retrospect, but without the context provided by Omen, I'd just been assuming that Tabata had replaced whatever Versus Noct was supposed to be with a more standard messianic sort of figure.
