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Uh, you mean the GAF thread? It seems like people are a bit split over that. I did not read the majority on case they are real, but something about that whole post doesn't feel right. And apparently that poster has made many differnet profiles on 4-chan just to trash on FFXV
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Agreed, and definitely do not read it if you are on the fence. These spoilers are no freaking joke if they're even half true, so avoid them! It smells like bullshit to me is my two cents, if you needed any further confirmation, with maybe a couple grains of truth. However, I'd still like to see it addressed in some way by PR if it's false. Even them just going "Haha no" would rule.
 
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Hopefully they've got something major up their sleeves! I've got my fingers crossed for the E3 kickoff but I won't be surprised if it's nothing better than what we've gotten so far. It's weird not to show your good stuff on the Sony stage or in the ATR...
To "showing on the Sony stage", I think its evident why it wasn't. Sony was stacked with what they had already, I think the trailer was fine for their 5/5 godly sequel to last year's Year of Dreams conference, lol. So, in this case I do think SE will spread out the info a bit:)
 

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I was going to ask about the spoiler thing but I fucking stumbled upon it on the trailer thread GAF, not knowing that there were spoilers already spread around that much (I just discovered that there's a whole fucking thread for that!). Oh well if they're true, luckily I've only read about two lines in a post I didn't expect to be talking about just that...

Regarding XV's E3... it was pretty mediocre. The trailer was alright in content (although it didn't show much new, which is kinda cool in a way), but using that music especially when you have Shimomura... The VR thing was pretty shit, but it's not that I'm going to ever use it.

Hopefully they'll show some good gameplay because man, what a lackluster show they've had in the last E3 they're ever going to be in. I guess I would be more positive had they chosen a better demo to show (or had the player do something beyond receiving attacks while awkwardly moving around). I seriously don't get what they couldn't have chosen to show, for example, Noctis warping to the enemies' warships. It would probably have been a safer demo and one you could control better.

Also, yeah, we get a glimpse at Noctis' suit, but also the ones Prompto, Gladio and Ignis have. They look cool and different enough.

All in all, dissapointing E3. Nice games, but only two good conferences: Microsoft's was pretty good, but man, Sony's is probably the best I've ever seen in an E3: games and no bullshit. Great-looking and surprising (if you didn't know about the rumours) reveals. Last year's Holy Trinity can't be surpassed in terms of excitement and shock, but this one was a muuuuch better conference.

EDIT: only read a few posts regarding XV's development and... if it's true (I really doubt it, but get the hell out of there if you don't want to risk it), it's very worrying, especially the XVI part. Again, really doubting it.
 
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See, to me, "day 0" edition sort of implies they're not done yet. That and the part about them not being done yet. Perhaps we should rate their E3 showing after they're done? We saw a 2 minute teaser of what we're going to see of game play, and the trailer we just got looks like a bonus trailer. So far.

As for the spoilers, let's just say they're true. So what? Any story will sound stupid if you remove all context. It's all about HOW it happens. You can't judge it off of a few distorted key points. My sincerest recommendation is to avoid them as much as possible, but if/when you do run into them, take them with a grain of salt.
 

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As for the spoilers, let's just say they're true. So what? Any story will sound stupid if you remove all context. It's all about HOW it happens. You can't judge it off of a few distorted key points. My sincerest recommendation is to avoid them as much as possible, but if/when you do run into them, take them with a grain of salt.
Eugh, I read it, and don't believe it. I'll just ignore it. I'm judging the game when it releases, not based on baseless hearsay and press show events.
 

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They are dropping the ball hard with marketing right now, the fact the XV was a low point at the Sony conference makes me sad.
That VR trailer was jolly fun tho.
It really wasn't its low-point at all. Only Crash come to mind IMO.
 

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Luckily I haven't read more than two lines before realizing they were spoilers (if they're legit). What I read was alright, but I don't know about the rest or what people's opinions on that are.

It's the development info that would worry me. But again, I REAAALLY doubt this is true. Avoid them like the plague anyways.

Today we have some streamings, right? And tomorrow the anime episode?

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I don't understand, they did a awesome job promoting the game with the Uncovered event, but this demo, a very risky choice of music for the trailer and the underwhelming ATR did more harm than good IMO.

This game is closer to release than ever, they should have made something better for E3.
 
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I don't understand, they did a awesome job promoting the game with the Uncovered event, but this demo, a very risky choice of music for the trailer and the underwhelming ATR did more harm than good IMO.

This game is closer to release than ever, they should have made something better for E3.
To be honest, the ATR is named "Zero" and I think there's another one (or at least demo streamings, FFXV universe talk and a Q&A with Tabata).

But yeah, I seriously don't get it. Unless there have been a lot problems with the polishing and all, I can't understand this marketing strategy.
 

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But yeah, I seriously don't get it. Unless there have been a lot problems with the polishing and all, I can't understand this marketing strategy.
Looking back at previous FF games, how were their marketing strategies? For the little I could find, it was only some trailers and some dev talks/interviews for magazines and nothing else.
 

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Guys, come on. I'd like to think this place is a little bit above this stuff.

-There was nothing wrong with the demo they played. It was a little blip of what they're going to show today. It's out of context. It was for the XBox crowd.
-That new trailer is a gameplay trailer and not likely the only one we're going to see. They'll be holding onto the story trailer for their own slice of E3. Even if it *IS* the only trailer we're getting, it's fine. I feel like the word is out on the game.
-They haven't started yet. Let's be puzzled about their marketing after they're done marketing.
-None of this did more harm than good. The whole damn gaming world is talking about FFXV. There's no such thing as bad press.

It's really no where near as bad as some people out there were taking it. It's really not. Besides, there's really nothing they could show that wouldn't have have the fans out there flipping out about it. Let the stuff sink in. Ponder on it a moment. Try to place things in context. It's gonna be OK.
 

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Guys, come on. I'd like to think this place is a little bit above this stuff.

-There was nothing wrong with the demo they played. It was a little blip of what they're going to show today. It's out of context. It was for the XBox crowd.
-That new trailer is a gameplay trailer and not likely the only one we're going to see. They'll be holding onto the story trailer for their own slice of E3. Even if it *IS* the only trailer we're getting, it's fine. I feel like the word is out on the game.
-They haven't started yet. Let's be puzzled about their marketing after they're done marketing.
-None of this did more harm than good. The whole damn gaming world is talking about FFXV. There's no such thing as bad press.

It's really no where near as bad as some people out there were taking it. It's really not. Besides, there's really nothing they could show that wouldn't have have the fans out there flipping out about it. Let the stuff sink in. Ponder on it a moment. Try to place things in context. It's gonna be OK.
How is there not such thing as bad press? Seriously?

I'm not catastrophic and I'm sure the game will be just fine, but I don't think many people are liking what they've seen during this E3 and rightfully so, mainly because of the demo (after an already lackluster one in PD). A demo badly thought in the sense that they should have known that what happened during the MS presser COULD very well have happened: literally the entire demo was tanking attacks while awkwardly moving the character and the camera. The whole time. How is that good for people who know the game and people who are new to it?

The trailer was a good one, but the music choice was shit. Not that that has anything to do with the game content, so no worries there at all.

And yeah, they're just starting with the marketing, although they should have done so a while ago (they've been talking about it since last GC), but we can criticise what's been shown so far in their marketing schedule. And their marketing plan this E3, SO FAR, has been bad. Whether because of the actual content or because things didn't turn out to be what they expected (the live demo), but bad nonetheless. Let's what they have in store for this week.
 
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The E3 showing was very underwhelming. Both the Titan gameplay and trailer were pretty bad.

Regarding 'leaks':
I'm not afraid of spoilers so I read it all and it's rathwr blatant bullshit. I can't comprehend why people are always so eager to believe 4chan rumours. Like, who would that guy have to be to know the behind-the-scenes of XV's development, the details behind Nomura's departure and Square's buisiness plans. Not to mention the whole XVI thing is very blatant fear mongering to gain attention. That's not how a big company works.

The guy probably got the E3 trailer name leak because E3 stuff leaks all the time. The rest is pure fanfiction.
 

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How is there not such thing as bad press? Seriously?
Since the dawn of time this has been the case. People fighting over the game means the game is stuck on people's minds. This translates to sales. Controversy FTW.

I'm not catastrophic and I'm sure the game will be just fine, but I don't think many people are liking what they've seen during this E3 and rightfully so, mainly because of the demo (after an already lackluster one in PD). A demo badly thought in the sense that they should have known that what happened during the MS presser COULD very well have happened: literally the entire demo was tanking attacks while awkwardly moving the character and the camera. The whole time. How is that good for people who know the game and people who are new to it?
That was a preview of what they're going to show today. It seemed to suck for me as well, at first, until you realize that's just one little part of it. When they show the full thing today, no one is going to care about the 2 minute preview. And with the whole damn world losing their shit over it, they'll ALL be watching. All, meaning the haters and the fans alike.

The trailer was a good one, but the music choice was shit. Not that that has anything to do with the game content, so no worries there at all.
The music was fine. It fit the trailer. That won't be the last trailer we ever get. It's a gameplay trailer. It's fine.

And yeah, they're just starting with the marketing, although they should have done so a while ago (they've been talking about it since last GC), but we can criticise what's been shown so far in their marketing schedule. And their marketing plan this E3, SO FAR, has been bad.
Their showcase for E3 hasn't started yet. Yesterday was preview stuff. We'll get the meat of it soon, and then criticisms will be valid. I'm not saying this is the beginning of their marketing. I'm saying we haven't seen what they have in store for E3 yet because it's all going down today and tomorrow.

Whether because of the actual content or because things didn't turn out to be what they expected (the live demo), but bad nonetheless.
It went as expected. It was just one little part of the demo. He didn't play it that poorly, either. Watch it again. Recommend the HD link upthread. It looked bad at first because there's no context and you don't know what's going on. When you see that it's just a small preview of the fight, there's nothing there to evaluate yet. Again, this part will be forgetten when they show the whole thing.

Let's what they have in store for this week.
Exactly.
 

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The E3 showing was very underwhelming. Both the Titan gameplay and trailer were pretty bad.

Regarding 'leaks':
I'm not afraid of spoilers so I read it all and it's rathwr blatant bullshit. I can't comprehend why people are always so eager to believe 4chan rumours. Like, who would that guy have to be to know the behind-the-scenes of XV's development, the details behind Nomura's departure and Square's buisiness plans. Not to mention the whole XVI thing is very blatant fear mongering to gain attention. That's not how a big company works.

The guy probably got the E3 trailer name leak because E3 stuff leaks all the time. The rest is pure fanfiction.
I think it's dangerous to assume the leaks are fake. Like I mentioned before, even if they're totally true (as interpreted by this one guy) it doesn't mean that it's going to play out exactly like that, and it doesn't mean it's not done well. I'm worried that anyone who thinks those leaks are purely faked will be immediately disappointed as soon as the slightest bit of evidence supports them and it'll color their opinions accordingly.

Reduce any of the FF stories down to a few basic key plot points and they'll all sound dumb, too.
 

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Since the dawn of time this has been the case. People fighting over the game means the game is stuck on people's minds. This translates to sales. Controversy FTW.
If people's perceptions of a game are bad, why would they buy it? To ironically shit on it? Just because it's infamous?

It doesn't make sense and that's not the case precisely because of that. No one wants bad press when it comes to a demonstration of their game, that's preposterous. Look at how well that worked for BvS (another medium, I know): the bad word of mouth killed any option that movie had to achieve the 1 billion status, despite having the biggest superhero along with Spiderman and the most iconic one for the first time together.

The bad press thing is absurd in my opinion, ESPECIALLY regarding FF XV, with all the criticism (deserved and undeserved) that has plagued the FF series since XIII. I can assure you that, if Tabata knew the kind of reaction among fans and casual players this demonstration has had, he wouldn't be too happy.
That was a preview of what they're going to show today. It seemed to suck for me as well, at first, until you realize that's just one little part of it. When they show the full thing today, no one is going to care about the 2 minute preview. And with the whole damn world losing their shit over it, they'll ALL be watching. All, meaning the haters and the fans alike.
But, again, I'm merely referring to the MS demonstration. Both MS and Sony's conferences are, by far, the ones most people watch and talk about. And that demo was the first one they've ever shown in a live conference and the first one on MS as well.

Believe me when I say that most people that don't truly know the game who weren't impressed or hated what they saw won't probably watch the ATR or any other stream. The first impression has been pretty poor and even if most do watch the rest they might have in store, the live demo is the one that's going to stick out the most for most people, not the one they do in their own streamings.
The music was fine. It fit the trailer. That won't be the last trailer we ever get. It's a gameplay trailer. It's fine.
This is totally subjective I guess, but I don't think of generic, bland dubstep when I think of FF, especially when they have such a vast and high quality library in their own game.

But again, this is not something that I hated (and it's totally subjective!), just found it funny.
Their showcase for E3 hasn't started yet. Yesterday was preview stuff. We'll get the meat of it soon, and then criticisms will be valid. I'm not saying this is the beginning of their marketing. I'm saying we haven't seen what they have in store for E3 yet because it's all going down today and tomorrow.
Yeah, I agree with you. But we can criticise what they've done so far, in the most important parts for casual players and people around the world that can't attend the fair. The criticism is to their marketing approach during the arguably most viewed and usually meaty events; it was pretty nonsensical in my opinion (the demo, the trailer was alright, especially in terms of content).
It went as expected. It was just one little part of the demo. He didn't play it that poorly, either. Watch it again. Recommend the HD link upthread. It looked bad at first because there's no context and you don't know what's going on. When you see that it's just a small preview of the fight, there's nothing there to evaluate yet. Again, this part will be forgetten when they show the whole thing.
Then that's even worse. It looked bad and cringey to me, a guy that knows quite a bit about this game (ten years do that to you haha) and understood what was going on. Imagine the impression a guy who doesn't know much (or nothing) about this got: a couple of minutes long presentation of how the main character stumbles around the entire area and can't even avoid attacks of a giant arm. The whole time, the same, only a few attacks in the beginning and that's about it.

So, once again, a bad choice for a live demo; whether the actual full demo is good or not I don't care: for the spotlight of a couple of minutes you had there, it was a poor showing.
Yeah, I'm pretty excited to see the entirety of the Titan Trial demo and whatever thing they might show.

It might look like I'm losing my shit over this with all the long posts and what not lol. But seriously, I'm just surprised at how bad they've thought out their introduction to the gameplay in their first ever MS conference. Just that, I'm not too afraid about the game's quality, at least not more than I was during Uncovered.
 
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I've found a summery of their ATR. It confirms that the version of Titan's trial they brought to E3 is exclusive to E3. The full release will have different objectives. Here's the full quote:

"It was mentioned that the trailer we saw earlier today is from the “Titan’s Trial” demo, which will be available at E3, and it features a trial where Noctis must destroy Titan’s arm in order to be able to summon him. This quest is exclusive to the E3 demo, and it will have different objectives for the full release version of the game."
 

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If people's perceptions of a game are bad, why would they buy it? To ironically shit on it? Just because it's infamous?
Look at the bigger picture. This is a ridiculous argument.

More controversy means more attention. More attention means more interest. Nobody saw that MS footage and decided they won't get the game. Some people SAID that. I'm sure some people THINK that, but all it means is those same people will continue eating up everything they put out there. Everything. Until they're capable of piecing it all together and it clicks.

They got you right where they want ya.
 

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Speaking of Titan, this came to my mind, would it be possible to have a summon vs summon scenario? (i.e:Leviathan vs Titan)
Pretty curious as to how that would look like.
 
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Look at the bigger picture. This is a ridiculous argument.

More controversy means more attention. More attention means more interest. Nobody saw that MS footage and decided they won't get the game. Some people SAID that. I'm sure some people THINK that, but all it means is those same people will continue eating up everything they put out there. Everything. Until they're capable of piecing it all together and it clicks.

They got you right where they want ya.
This is ludicrous dude, come on. This is a product that needs to be perceived as being of high quality, especially as SE has said time and again that they feel the Final Fantasy brand's reputation is on the line here. I get that you want to defend this game, but pretending like bad showings do it any favors seems pretty darn out there.

EDIT: I'd also like to mention that the ATR is called Day 0 not because it's the first of many but because E3 technically hadn't started yet so it's the day before day 1. Day 0.