Toriyama might be the highest selling director in Square Enix history

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Final Fantasy games directed by Motomu Toriyama have sold a combined 29.1 million copies worldwide as of December 27, 2014. This is not including digital and as such doesn't include PC/Steam sales. This number is thanks to VGChartz.
 
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Highest-selling director, and also the underappreciated one. The first name that pops on my mind when mentioning SE directors is Kitase, the original. One of the founding fathers of the best-selling RPG franchise in the industry. When I see the name 'Toriyama', I would first assume Akira, the game artist, and not Motomu. He only got the high sales, because of he's working on an already-popular franchise. To me, he will only be remembered as the FFXIII director, along with its trilogy.
 

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Highest-selling director, and also the underappreciated one. The first name that pops on my mind when mentioning SE directors is Kitase, the original. One of the founding fathers of the best-selling RPG franchise in the industry. When I see the name 'Toriyama', I would first assume Akira, the game artist, and not Motomu. He only got the high sales, because of he's working on an already-popular franchise. To me, he will only be remembered as the FFXIII director, along with its trilogy.
So you'll never remember his events in VII or the X series? Or XII's sequel?
 

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So that means
FF XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns, X-2 and XII RW, have sold together 29,1 million copies?


Uhm... no
 

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So that means
FF XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns, X-2 and XII RW, have sold together 29,1 million copies?


Uhm... no
Final Fantasy X = 8.05
Final Fantasy X International = 0.27
Final Fantasy X-2 = 5.29
Final Fantasy X-2 International + Last Mission = 0.29
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings = 1.37
Final Fantasy XIII PS3 = 5.25
Final Fantasy XIII 360 = 2.10
Final Fantasy XIII-2 PS3 = 2.66 without digital
Final Fantasy XIII-2 360 = 0.72 without digital
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII PS3 = 1.01 without digital
Lightning Returns: Fantasy XIII 360 = 0.22 without digital
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster PS3 = 1.19 without digital
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster PS Vita = 0.68 without digital
= 29.1

And that's not even including the PC versions of XIII and XIII-2.
 

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If you could provide actual sources that'd be ideal. VGChartz is not a source.

I also hadn't seen any actual sales figures for LRFF13 before, so would be very interested in seeing that.

Not trying to doubt you or such. Just need some real sources in topics like these!
 

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If you could provide actual sources that'd be ideal. VGChartz is not a source.

I also hadn't seen any actual sales figures for LRFF13 before, so would be very interested in seeing that.

Not trying to doubt you or such. Just need some real sources in topics like these!
The problem with that is Square Enix sadly hardly ever provide numbers. However Square Enix did say the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy had sold over 11 million copies worldwide before the PC version of XIII was released.
 

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Okay... so where are your numbers coming from? You said they check out when compared to SE's numbers...
 

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Even if the numbers were correct, I wouldn't count Toriyama as the director for X, Kitase was the chief director here.
Both game credits only list Kitase as producer and list Toriyama as the first director. In all forms of X/X-2 HD Remaster marketing and even the artbook he is listed only listed as producer. When FFX won a PlayStation award in December they only referred to him as producer.
 

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Link to FF13 trilogy sales, please? Hoping it has LR numbers.
It was a North American press release on September 18 announcing the XIII trilogy was coming to PC.

"The FINAL FANTASY XIII trilogy began in March 2010 with the release of the original FINAL FANTASY XIII and continued with its sequel, FINAL FANTASY XIII-2, released in February 2012. The most recent release in the series, LIGHTNING RETURNS™: FINAL FANTASY XIII, launched on February 11, 2014 . The series has been widely successful, shipping over 11 million units worldwide."
 

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So, shipped, not sold. And no LR numbers.

Where exactly did you get the LR numbers? To my knowledge, SE has never given them out.
 
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Im so sick of toriyama. He's directed EVERYTHING since the ps1 era (save for XII and MMO's). TWO CONSOLE GENERATIONS!!! what the hell was SE thinking....

And out of all those games, only X was good(not great, mind you). X-2 is not very good, it just benefit's from being a sequel to a good game, thus still having some of the characters we still love. I hated XIII, and it is a pretty divisive game in the fanbase. XIII-2 was completely forgettable. I won't pay money for LR so i can't give an opinion for that game because i haven't played it.

Also, previous directors weren't releasing there games on 2 consoles. And more ppl are buying games than ever before, even tho we all know the XIII sequels did not sell well. IMO, toriyama has not been a very successful director.../rant


So does Kitase not direct anymore?

I kno 'the Guch is doing his own thing, and Ito is still there(working on something as we speak, i hope), and they got that Tabata kid. Is there any director's their i'm forgetting?

And let's say XV does REALLY well, does tabata direct XVII(assuming Ito does XVI)? And where does that leave toriyama? SE isnt putting out a game a year anymore...