Square Enix is doing something FFX-2 related in May

[LeonBlade]

I don't care if you don't like the XIII trilogy, we aren't discussing that here. We're discussing what Square Enix's #1 division is working on.

You completely missed the part where I mentioned things that weren't XIII, which was a bigger portion of my post. I used XIII as a comparison to show how making subsequent bad games can further destroy an original game's integrity.

Besides, it doesn't matter, the Tweet is completely pointless as Cadet pointed out on Twitter. Also this isn't a discussion on Division 1, it's about the Tweet, which isn't anything useful.

 

[Sora96]

You completely missed the part where I mentioned things that weren't XIII, which was a bigger portion of my post. I used XIII as a comparison to show how making subsequent bad games can further destroy an original game's integrity.

Besides, it doesn't matter, the Tweet is completely pointless as Cadet pointed out on Twitter. Also this isn't a discussion on Division 1, it's about the Tweet, which isn't anything useful.

Well I'm discussing what Square Enix's #1 division is up to, not my problem if you missed that.

 

[LeonBlade]

Well I'm discussing what Square Enix's #1 division is up to, not my problem if you missed that.

The title of the thread is "
Square Enix is doing something FFX-2 related in May
"

 

[Sora96]

The title of the thread is "
Square Enix is doing something FFX-2 related in May
"

And then I point out all the facts that help leads up to them working on X-3.

 

[LeonBlade]

And then I point out all the facts that help leads up to them working on X-3.

Yeah, and I told you that Cadet proved the Tweet was irrelevant... My main point of discussion was about X-3, I mentioned XIII because it supported my argument against X-3. Is that not on topic? Again, if you disagree with my opinion that's fine, but you completely just threw it aside and said you wont listen to it because I mentioned Toriyama... making sequels... and this has to do with a potential sequel... by Toriyama...

My points are completely on topic, and I refuted the idea that this has any relevance to a X-3 game as disproven by the nature of the Tweet, as well as stated my opinions on making another X sequel game, as well as stated how the general Japanese audience does not enjoy the X-2.5 novella.

What more do you want me to say here? I'm completely on topic.

 

[Death Penalty]

These threads in general seem to tend to lean heavily on wild speculation that's flavored more than a touch by the OP's bias and desires. I'm not sure how useful it is arguing, but creating so many threads and then being unwilling to entertain any dissenting voices is a bad look for anybody.

 

[Sora96]

These threads in general seem to tend to lean heavily on wild speculation that's flavored more than a touch by the OP's bias and desires. I'm not sure how useful it is arguing, but creating so many threads and then being unwilling to entertain any dissenting voices is a bad look for anybody.

I just wanna know what Square Enix's #1 division is working on, simple. If it's Parasite Eve, fantastic. If it's a new IP, fantastic. Doesn't matter a great deal to me since Toriyama delivers a quality game every time for me.

I'm all for different opinions, but not from plain old Toriyama haters since chances are they'll hate whatever he makes again anyway.

 

[LeonBlade]

I'm all for different opinions, but not from plain old Toriyama haters since chances are they'll hate whatever he makes again anyway.

Who said they hated Toriyama?

 

[Sora96]

Who said they hated Toriyama?

Rezon.

 

[Jenova]

Let's all take a deep breath and calm down. We can agree to disagree like mature folk. No need to have unnecessary arguments.

 

[Lucina]

I just wanna know what Square Enix's #1 division is working on, simple. If it's Parasite Eve, fantastic. If it's a new IP, fantastic. Doesn't matter a great deal to me since Toriyama delivers a quality game every time for me.

I'm all for different opinions, but not from plain old Toriyama haters since chances are they'll hate whatever he makes again anyway.

I dislike the generalising of a segment of people into so-called, "Toriyama haters." They have a right to dislike what they want without the name calling. Reputation is a social construct, and you can't stop that.

I did not like X very much, and I don't want resources going into an X-3, ever.

 

[Sora96]

I dislike the generalising of a segment of people into so-called, "Toriyama haters." They have a right to dislike what they want without the name calling. Reputation is a social construct, and you can't stop that.

I did not like X very much, and I don't want resources going into an X-3, ever.

They do have a right to dislike what they want, but why come into a Toriyama topic if they do? If you hate Toriyama, that's your problem since Square Enix love him and the proof is he's directed more FF games than anyone else EVER.

 

[Lucina]

They do have a right to dislike what they want, but why come into a Toriyama topic if they do? If you hate Toriyama, that's your problem since Square Enix love him and the proof is he's directed more FF games than anyone else EVER.

They posted on the topic because they have something to express. I'm pretty sure you know this.

 

[Sora96]

That's a rhetorical question. They posted on the topic because they have something to express. I'm pretty sure you know this.

Yeah, their hatred for Toriyama. And their hatred means nothing to Square Enix.

 

[Lucina]

Yeah, their hatred for Toriyama. And their hatred means nothing to Square Enix.

There you go again. Seriously, stop. You're doing the same thing when it comes to hate.

 

[Sora96]

There you go again. Seriously, stop. You're doing the same thing when it comes to hate.

I will when the Toriyama haters stop.

 

[Death Penalty]

If you don't want people who dislike Toriyama to express themselves, I suggest not making a topic in a forum concerning him. Most of the comments against Toriyama were completely on-topic, and you've changed the topic to "what is this division working on" as... What? Some effort to tell people who disagree with you that they have no place here in your thread? I'm not trying to be mean here, just wondering of you were aware of what you were doing. It's fine that you like Toriyama, but I'd suggest being less sensitive when you find people who don't.

Diminishing well thought-out and explained opinions as the ravings of "haters" is no way to have a discussion.

 

[buddhafied]

Well, this got heated.

I also find it a bit unfair if we can't express ourselves of what we like or not. I'm not here just to defend @LeonBlade, but he did, in his original post here, even said it was just his opinion and it was rather well constructed and objectively backed with examples. We can't tell people not to express simply because they don't agree with the topic starter, especially what has been labeled as "hate" was not a blind hate. This type of mentality is how religious extremists act - "you hate my god, you don't have rights to talk," - and it's a dangerous path to walk, regardless what age group you are in.

I think it's great that @Sora96 has so much insight about the divisions of Square and the producers, etc. All the research that has done and tried to reach out to them thru social media to get hints of what's going on. It surely benefit the forum. As a fan of videogames for over 30 years, and a huge part of that was because of Squaresoft, I can tell you, many people only see the game as the game and will never know the producer. For me, FFXIII was a weak entry, despite some good things (graphic, music and battle system were good IMO), I had to force myself to finish it. Funny enough, I have similar opinion about X-2.

I love FFX. I think I clocked in 129 hours by the time I finished, and I was in 4th year university back then, which I really shouldn't focused so much on the game. X-2, however lost my interest quite early on.

Why do I mentioned these two games? Because they happened to be two Final Fantasy games that I had a tough time liking. If I hadn't have known Toriyama was responsible for these two games, which I didn't until this post (as I mentioned most consumers won't care to find out), I would just say I dislike those games. Now I know the guy worked on them, I am even more against the possibly of a X-3 game because he might be involved.

I see there are pros and cons in knowing inside out of a game and its producers. On one had it gives you better idea of what to expect as well as what a certain producer can enhance the experience of the titles. But It can also be make difficult to be objective of something when you know too much about the people behind those projects.