Final Fantasy XV - General News Thread

[Rezon]

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Unfortunately I think its the latter. The new crest can be seen in brotherhood as well, that is clearly the same circle and they simply changed the background. The reason its not changed on the car is probably that you have to zoom way in to see it. Still, I'm dissapointed (and surprised given the attention to detail everywhere else in this project), because it is a reminder of how the game was going to be, and they took all the other references out. It looks like they really did remove the reaper theme...its a shame and I think more and more that is the true reason that we won't experience the invasion in the game. There was Grim Reaper imagery almost everywhere. What the (original) Lucian crest represents is an explicit part of the Lucian culture and makes sense given the Latin meanings and implications of certain words --all this would have pushed the game to an M rating. Moving "playable" Insomnia to the end of the game, they can conveniently ignore all that because the city will have been basically destroyed.

When Square-Enix management realized it was going take the team six more years AND they couldn't even sell it at a teen rating, They threw Nomura out and on to VIIR as additional insurance in case the new XV (which Nomura would never have allowed to change) failed and SE made Kingsglaive to try to keep the story sort of making sense--since it replaces what was a major part of the original first game, and, since the rest of Eos is less controversial, the rest of the game was probably left unchanged, more or less. Still I'm disappointed. They really should have scrapped the whole thing in 2013 and started over, if they knew the game lore and concept was going to be neutered like this.

If i'm wrong and someone can refute me (without any actual Kingsglaive spoilers) I'm totally willing to eat crow though

That other car is not the Regalia tho, that's the Audi that the Kingsglaive use in the movie.

 

[Rin]

That other car is not the Regalia tho, that's the Audi that the Kingsglaive use in the movie.

Yup. Not the Regalia, but it's still a pretty neat car.

Why is Noctis's left boot different? It doesn't look like it does in the game.

Looks like dirt on the boot's surface.

An example today, in a thread about those big Monstery things on the cover art in a thread on gamefaqs, one person had to be all 'I know something you don't know' about it. Thing is, most of us didn't know there was anything more to the story other than that they were big bad monster things. Next thing you know, spoilers all over like its old news.

Sorry, Doctor, but I'm going to have to say that visiting the XV board on GameFAQs right now was the first mistake you made. If you want to avoid spoilers, keep far away from that site; it's basically a minefield right now.

Anyway, about spoilers, I've gone through the last few pages of the thread and have seen at least one (come on, guys...). In the meantime, I'll do my part to stay vigilant (and silent).

 

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

Yup. Not the Regalia, but it's still a pretty neat car.


Looks like dirt on the boot's surface.

Anyway, about spoilers, I've gone through the last few pages of the thread and haven't seen any, but I'll do my part to stay vigilant (and silent).

When people type things that start with "Well if the spoilers are true then" and then go off and allude to things they read about then I think that can be spoilery to a degree even if they don't outright type out exactly what they read. As long as people spoiler tag their comments or don't hint too much about what they saw then It's cool. Wasn't trying to create a clusterfuck in this thread but I keep running into things pertaining to the leaks. It's bothersome regardless of whether or not they are true. May I ask how you are sure they haven't spoiled anything?. Just curious. Are you an insider or something?. I mean this as a serious question and want to make sure you don't think I'm being snarky or something like that.

 

[DrBretto]

Sorry, Doctor, but I'm going to have to say that visiting the XV board on GameFAQs right now was the first mistake you made. If you want to avoid spoilers, keep far away from that site; it's basically a minefield right now.

You are absolutely correct. No doubt.

But, this makes this thread all the more important.

 

[Rin]

When people type things that start with "Well if the spoilers are true then" and then go off and allude to things they read about then I think that can be spoilery to a degree even if they don't outright type out exactly what they read. As long as people spoiler tag their comments or don't hint too much about what they saw then It's cool. Wasn't trying to create a clusterfuck in this thread but I keep running into things pertaining to the leaks. It's bothersome regardless of whether or not they are true. May I ask how you are sure they haven't spoiled anything?. Just curious. Are you an insider or something?. I mean this as a serious question and want to make sure you don't think I'm being snarky or something like that.

Before I address your concerns:

PSA: If you don't want to read Kingsglaive spoilers in this thread, do not click on the "spoiler" button in this post: http://www.mognetcentral.com/threads/final-fantasy-xv-general-news-thread.3288/page-183#post-35048 (I didn't want to name names, but it looks like this is the only way.)

Now back to your questions:
Are you running into these leaks on this website or others? If you're reading them outside of the dedicated spoilers thread that's been set up, let me know. Otherwise, I can't really help you if you come across any on other forums.

Since you "keep running into things pertaining to the leaks," could you send me a message to let me know which messages you think have spoilers? I read every post from page 178 and on and haven't found any other than the one I've addressed in red above. I've found one other one but will contact the user directly; if I point out that it's a potential spoiler, then people will... be spoiled.

I know people haven't spoiled things because I've read the film spoilers myself and have read summaries of what happens in the film written by those who have seen it in theaters. Don't need inside knowledge to do that.

 

[Rin]

Speaking of changes, and ha ha to me I didn't see this before, the old crest is plainly on the RHS 113 Regalia licence plate. However, it is not on the Kingsglaive Regalia licence plate even though the surrounding border is the same design...so was the crest changed only for the movie, or has it been eliminated and replaced (almost) all together in the game as well.

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Unfortunately I think its the latter. The new crest can be seen in brotherhood as well, that is clearly the same circle and they simply changed the background. The reason its not changed on the car is probably that you have to zoom way in to see it. Still, I'm dissapointed (and surprised given the attention to detail everywhere else in this project), because it is a reminder of how the game was going to be, and they took all the other references out. It looks like they really did remove the reaper theme...its a shame and I think more and more that is the true reason that we won't experience the invasion in the game. There was Grim Reaper imagery almost everywhere. What the (original) Lucian crest represents is an explicit part of the Lucian culture and makes sense given the Latin meanings and implications of certain words --all this would have pushed the game to an M rating. Moving "playable" Insomnia to the end of the game, they can conveniently ignore all that because the city will have been basically destroyed.

When Square-Enix management realized it was going take the team six more years AND they couldn't even sell it at a teen rating, They threw Nomura out and on to VIIR as additional insurance in case the new XV (which Nomura would never have allowed to change) failed and SE made Kingsglaive to try to keep the story sort of making sense--since it replaces what was a major part of the original first game, and, since the rest of Eos is less controversial, the rest of the game was probably left unchanged, more or less. Still I'm disappointed. They really should have scrapped the whole thing in 2013 and started over, if they knew the game lore and concept was going to be neutered like this.

If i'm wrong and someone can refute me (without any actual Kingsglaive spoilers) I'm totally willing to eat crow though

Please allow me to respond:
1) As @Rezon mentioned, the Regalia that Noctis and his friends use to go on their journey is different from the Audi shown in Kingsglaive. Why is this fact important? You're comparing two different license plates, and it's no surprise that one of them won't have the emblem on it since they're... different.

The Audi is owned by Lucian government, so it makes sense that it would have a similar bordering on the license plate holder to the Regalia.
(By the way, this isn't a spoiler; we see the Kingsglaive drive it and all in the trailers and other promotional images––namely, the harmless photoshopped images that FFXVJP has been tweeting out)

2) The emblem is sold as an iPhone 6 case design and has been sold since the Uncovered event. Is it likely that Square Enix decided to abandon the design altogether in the last n months due to an ESRB/PEGI/CERO rating? You tell me.

3) I know you're disappointed with some of the changes from Versus XIII to XV, as quite a few others here and around the web are. However, for the sake of your peace of mind, I'd advise you to refrain from conjuring up an entire story of what did or could've happened, especially since the game's not even out yet.

 

[Nova]

When Square-Enix management realized it was going take the team six more years AND they couldn't even sell it at a teen rating, They threw Nomura out and on to VIIR as additional insurance in case the new XV (which Nomura would never have allowed to change) failed and SE made Kingsglaive to try to keep the story sort of making sense--since it replaces what was a major part of the original first game, and, since the rest of Eos is less controversial, the rest of the game was probably left unchanged, more or less. Still I'm disappointed. They really should have scrapped the whole thing in 2013 and started over, if they knew the game lore and concept was going to be neutered like this.

I need to get this off my chest

For the love of fuck. Can we NOT do this crap again. Like. Please?

The last thing i want for this forum is to turn into yet another Versus XIII vs XV circlejerk. It has gotten extremely detrimental towards any form of FFXV dicussion, especially in regards to numerous conjecture being placed as conclusions.

I apologize for coming off blunt, but its very hard to not feel aggrivated when reading bolded after all this time,

 

[RetroPS4]

Please allow me to respond:
1) As @Rezon mentioned, the Regalia that Noctis and his friends use to go on their journey is different from the Audi shown in Kingsglaive. Why is this fact important? You're comparing two different license plates, and it's no surprise that one of them won't have the emblem on it since they're... different.

The Audi is owned by Lucian government, so it makes sense that it would have a similar bordering on the license plate holder to the Regalia.
(By the way, this isn't a spoiler; we see the Kingsglaive drive it and all in the trailers and other promotional images––namely, the harmless photoshopped images that FFXVJP has been tweeting out)

2) The emblem is sold as an iPhone 6 case design and has been sold since the Uncovered event. Is it likely that Square Enix decided to abandon the design altogether in the last n months due to an ESRB/PEGI/CERO rating? You tell me.

3) I know you're disappointed with some of the changes from Versus XIII to XV, as quite a few others here and around the web are. However, for the sake of your peace of mind, I'd advise you to refrain from conjuring up an entire story of what did or could've happened, especially since the game's not even out yet.

I need to get this off my chest

For the love of fuck. Can we NOT do this crap again. Like. Please?

The last thing i want for this forum is to turn into yet another Versus XIII vs XV circlejerk. It has gotten extremely detrimental towards any form of FFXV dicussion, especially in regards to numerous conjecture being placed as conclusions.

I apologize for coming off blunt, but its very hard to not feel aggrivated when reading bolded after all this time,

No, I totally get it. I was out of line and edited my post. Please understand, I am not trying to set up a fight. I am anticipating this project and the last thing I want to do is turn Mognet into GameFAQ's.

@Rin Ok, I'm sorry. I know they are selling the iphone case, I used that vey point to make the argument that a lot of Versus seems to have been preserved! ...Its just still maddening to me still that all SE say is please look forwards to it, while I keep finding out about what has changed and nothing really of importance about what is still consistent. I guess I misspoke saying that the Kingsglaive car was the Regalia, it obviously is a government vehicle though, so that is where my interest for what the crest is now came from. Also, your point about the bordering makes sense and (maybe) its just the actual Regalia that would have a full sigil, I hadn't thought of that.

This was (and still is) the project I am most looking forwards to (in-spite of my hyperbolic statement that the project should have been scrapped, lol) and as we get closer to its release, I was hoping for more reassurance that things (that we were led to think are a certain way-due to depiction in official released media etc) are going to remain consistant from here on out.

Instead, alarm bells continue to go off as every new piece of media is released--at this point I almost feel conditioned to expect things to keep changing. So, when I discover some shred of evidence of the project I fell in love with 10years ago still exists (sigil on licence plate, hooded man still in, Gentiana name reveal, etc), I get irrationally excited due to those moments being drip feed/months years apart confirmations, while the changes seem to have be annouced quite frequently.

I realize this is a fairly unhealthy response, and I do realize its just a videogame but damn, its hard to get over. I will try to stay more even keel, as best I can. I may well need some sort of rehab when this thing is over...

 

[Rin]

Maybe the best thing for now is to take a break from news and updates and come back when the game is a few weeks away from release. I can't tell you to forget about Versus XIII or what you should think about XV and its "new" image, but I will remind you that all people involved on this project are hard at work and giving it their all so that fans and newcomers to the series can have an enjoyable experience with the game. No one's intentionally sabotaging Versus XIII's image as if they've got a vendetta against Nomura, and due to circumstances beyond our control, yes, it is unfortunate that Versus could never be manifested in the way that Nomura, Nojima, and the original development team had intended. However, it doesn't mean that what we currently have is inferior or altogether compromised; it's just modified.

Accuse me of having low standards, sure, but I am just grateful that the project was not canned and that Square Enix are determined to push through to the end on this story. If this story weren't worth telling, and if SE didn't think it would sell, they wouldn't have gone through all this effort to salvage and recreate what they can in the last four years. I'm clearly being melodramatic here, but I hope you see my point.

 

[RetroPS4]

Maybe the best thing for now is to take a break from news and updates and come back when the game is a few weeks away from release. I can't tell you to forget about Versus XIII or what you should think about XV and its "new" image, but I will remind you that all people involved on this project are hard at work and giving it their all so that fans and newcomers to the series can have an enjoyable experience with the game. No one's intentionally sabotaging Versus XIII's image as if they've got a vendetta against Nomura, and due to circumstances beyond our control, yes, it is unfortunate that Versus could never be manifested in the way that Nomura, Nojima, and the original development team had intended. However, it doesn't mean that what we currently have is inferior or altogether compromised; it's just modified.

Accuse me of having low standards, sure, but I am just grateful that the project was not canned and that Square Enix are determined to push through to the end on this story. If this story weren't worth telling, and if SE didn't think it would sell, they wouldn't have gone through all this effort to salvage and recreate what they can in the last four years. I'm clearly being melodramatic here, but I hope you see my point.

Oh, I think you and everyone else knows who the person being melodramatic was ... Ahem, since I gather you said you have absorbed just about all the info out there regarding KG, when you get a chance if you could pm me anything more elaborate (again not spoilers, but anything that might allude to my specific silly question) I would appreciate it. I do not desire to further pollute this thread with negativity. Only (spoiler free) hype hopefully

Edit, thanks Rin. Judging by the direction of the teaser, and the E3 2016 trailer

Spoiler

what you just wrote doesn't really surprise me, I almost half expect to somehow see the limo scene on the way to the party maybe even with "driver-san" except carrying maybe Nyx seeing as how we know a re-envisioned party scene will be in the movie from that screenshot...I think that limo scene might have been the one I liked the most of all in Versus, lol!

 

[Rin]

Oh, I think you and everyone else knows who the person being melodramatic was ... Ahem, since I gather you said you have absorbed just about all the info out there regarding KG, when you get a chance if you could pm me anything more elaborate (again not spoilers, but anything that might allude to my specific silly question) I would appreciate it. I do not desire to further pollute this thread with negativity. Only (spoiler free) hype hopefully

All good. I'll see if I can ask. For what it's worth, some Japanese fans who have seen the film and who have waited since 2006 already have commented that it is reminiscent of Versus XIII. I personally have been calling it "neo-Versus." lol

By the way,

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the film even pays homage to a famous scene from the Versus trailers.

 

[Koozek]

Those creatures are most likely the Knights of the Round. Based on @artsi's post on GAF, I whipped this up quickly:

 

[Koozek]

The girl in the car is confirmed to be Gladio's sister, Iris, from Brotherhood episode 3:

https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/

She was in the Japanese Uncovered trailer:

And also Ravus in-game shot on Twitter. Looks worse than in Kingsglaive, imo :/

 

[DrBretto]

Welp, I'm done with the internet.

 

[dissasterrific]

Ravus looks better in-game for me lol

Guys, a suggestion: how about creating a thread for general spoilers and theories about the game? It would certainly solve the problem of accidentally posting spoilers here. If news are released which contains spoilers, we can write a notification of the news title here and further discuss in the spoiler thread instead.

 

[Lulcielid]

Ravus looks better in-game for me lol

Guys, a suggestion: how about creating a thread for general spoilers and theories about the game? It would certainly solve the problem of accidentally posting spoilers here. If news are released which contains spoilers, we can write a notification of the news title here and further discuss in the spoiler thread instead.

The spoiler thread for FFXV should be created either when either the game releases or when people are starting to get their copies ealier.

 

[Koozek]

Welp, I'm done with the internet.

Wait. Have you

Spoiler

just indirectly implied that the theory is in fact true according to the spoilers? If so, that'd be pretty ironic, especially after your posts on the last page I haven't read any of the spoilers and was just speculating based on officially released material.

 

[DrBretto]

Wait. Have you

Spoiler

just indirectly implied that the theory is in fact true according to the spoilers? If so, that'd be pretty ironic, especially after your posts on the last page I haven't read any of the spoilers and was just speculating based on officially released material.

I have indirectly confirmed that the only way I can avoid spoilers is to disappear from the 'net

Edit: I have to say this, BTW, whether confirmed or not, that's the kind of thing that should be at least spoiler tagged anyway. You can figure too much out from something like that. I'd like to remain reasonable ignorant of that kind of thing. It's not something most people would have come up with on their own, and if they did, it'd only be people that want to spend that much time and effort figuring out those kinds of details in the story. I'd really, really like to discover the rest of the plot from actually playing the game and watching the movie.

I have to admit, I'm gonna try, but I probably can't quit this thread at least, and I will not bring up any spoiler-related drama again. I hereby understand that the risk is mine to take for popping into this thread. I am, however, just asking, as a human, for people to be sensitive to that kind of thing if they can is all. I don't want to make this drama, though, so that's the last I have to say about it.

 

[Lulcielid]

Final Fantasy XV premium event held by Dengeki set for August 28th. You can try FFXV VR there too.

 

[heartimecia]

...So, that cover right. I personally like it! I think I'm in the minority here, but I really do like the NA/EU front cover. I think it's a bit intimate to have Noctis looking at the player; it feels like he's allowing you into their group, letting you experience the journey with them. The background definitely hints at some story stuff that we can only anticipate as to what it might all be. Colors are nice, I like it! The only thing missing for me is the proper logo, but thankfully there's the reversible cover for that (I do wish it were white, though).

Ravus is far more handsome in-game and I'm happy about Iris being in the game!