Final Fantasy Versus XIII / Kingsglaive Comparison

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Chocobo Knight
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I thought about putting this in the general news thread but it might get lost and I wanted to highlight it since Kingsglaive is a pretty major part of what I will dub the "Compilation of Final Fantasy XV" This is a very interesting blow by blow comparison and analysis of just how meticulous (aside from redesigns and repurposing Stella=>Luna) Kingsglaive seems to be compared to the Versus trailers.

To read the entire article visit:
http://www.finalfantasyunion.com/fe...-final-fantasy-xv-story-cuts-make-more-sense/

Via Final Fantasy Union:
Final Fantasy Versus XIII Jump Festa 2008 Trailer (DKΣ713)
This was one of the first trailers where we got to see something other than Noctis beating up a load of Niflheim troops. It was shown in its original form at the DKΣ713 event during mid-2007, later aired at Jump Festa 2008 behind closed doors and was leaked mid-2008 before being shown in its extended form at Jump Festa 2009. During this trailer, there are two scenes that can now be referenced in Kingsglaive.

The first is an exact replica of one where King Regis is talking with his Glaives.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122579443@N07/26153439805

The second is a little looser. During the Jump Festa trailer, we see a small section that focusses on a bald aide wearing sunglasses discussing something (below) around the table highlighted in the previous image. If you again study that image, you will see the same bald aide on the right-hand side.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122579443@N07/26087102291

Final Fantasy Versus XIII 1st Production Department Premier Trailer 2011
Skipping forward quite a few years, Square Enix stunned gamers with an immense trailer during their 1st Production Department Premier event. It featured a much more expansive narrative and there are again some good references.

In the Kingsglaive trailer, there are two times where we see King Regis sitting upon high in his throne. The first is a scene that contains Lunafreya, while the second shows him talking to Ardyn Izunia.

During 2011 Final Fantasy Versus XIII trailer, albeit with an older character model for Regis, there was a similar scene shown with him sitting on his throne, up high. Although the aesthetics are not quite identical, in this scene Regis is talking to someone about the fact they cannot become King and that he will not turn over the throne to anyone.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122579443@N07/25548669544

Later in the same trailer for Final Fantasy Versus XIII, there was a scene that takes place in location that received much more coverage in future trailers and is also now a focal point for Kingsglaive. It highlights the changes that Tabata made to the story, and perhaps why he did so, as Noctis and his group will no longer be in this part of the world during this time.

Keep a distinct eye on the floor patterns in the below image, and remember it for the next reference.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122579443@N07/25550947453

Final Fantasy XV E3 2013 Announcement Trailer
This is where things started to get very interesting, as Final Fantasy Versus XIII was renamed to Final Fantasy XV and we got yet more scenes relating to the wider story.

The first point of note is that there was a new scene featured that focussed on a rather dicey encounter that takes place between King Regis and Iedolas Aldercapt. It's at this point that I'd like you to also reference the previous image.

We've got two images for this one, the first is a more "open" encounter between the two. You can see that the room is very clearly the same in both the Final Fantasy XV trailer and Kingsglaive. It's a meeting between King Regis, Iedolas Aldercapt and their respective allies.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122579443@N07/26087102431

In this second image, we have a much look at just how tense things got between the two parties. This plays out in a slightly different way in Kingsglaive, with an unfortunate troop being slung down the middle, but the aesthetics are very similar.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122579443@N07/26127490256

The last prominent scene that we have, before everything was cut from the game, features a rather fierce stand-off between Iedolas and Regis at the head of the above event. Iedolas pulls out a gun, while Regis threatens him with his magical powers. It makes for a rather superb spectacle.

In the image below, we've got left as the Final Fantasy XV announcement trailer, and right as the Kingsglaive trailer. You can see just how much Regis' design has changed, but that Iedolas' has also changed a little too. His robe is now gold, as opposed to red.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122579443@N07/25550789733

Oh, and as a final point from this trailer. It was at this time that Ardyn was introduced as an ally of Iedolas. In the original he was depicted outside on some steps with Iedolas underneath an umbrella and was very much connected with this section of the narrative.

Based on the Kingsglaive trailer, we can assume that Ardyn is now going to have a more active role within Kingsglaive, albeit with a slightly sleeker model than the one we were introduced to a few years ago.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122579443@N07/25550789793

Based on this evidence, it's pleasing to see that the content has not actually be cut, but re-purposed into another medium so it can assist with the wider mythology.
What do all of you think?
 

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RetroPS4

Chocobo Knight
Aug 10, 2015
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The only thing missing from VSXIII trailers in Kingsglaive would be Ezio Auditore the Hooded Man.

It (kinda) has an "official" name.
Yes, he is most certainly a (glaringly) missing character...I really hope he hasn't been replaced by Glauca. He just seemed so cool and intruiging.
 
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Yes, he is most certainly a (glaringly) missing character...I really hope he hasn't been replaced by Glauca. He just seemed so cool and intruiging.
I think Glauca was that large armored guy who was in the same frame with the hooded guy from the 2013 trailer. I think he just got redesigned. I bet hooded man is still in the game.
 

RetroPS4

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I think Glauca was that large armored guy who was in the same frame with the hooded guy from the 2013 trailer. I think he just got redesigned. I bet hooded man is still in the game.
I was thinking the same and I sure hope you are right:) I'm just trying not to let myself be disappointed with this game again (Stella gone Regis changes), there is much I'm looking forwards to still, however, when it was Versus, I was looking forwards to everything:(
 
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I was thinking the same and I sure hope you are right:) I'm just trying not to let myself be disappointed with this game again (Stella gone Regis changes), there is much I'm looking forwards to still, however, when it was Versus, I was looking forwards to everything:(
I know people were disappointed in some of the changes but fortunately I didn't have negative feelings about any of them really. I honestly love Regis' new design. He looks very kingly and awesome. The new GI cover had that painting that showed young Regis looking like he did in VersusXIII so maybe we see him when he is young at some point in the game. As for the hooded man I feel like he is too important to scrap. I don't think anything was really scrapped from the 2013 E3 trailer honestly. Most people seem to think the little girl holding Noctis' hand was Stella but it was Luna actually. My point is they probably wouldn't scrap an entire character after they re branded the game to XV. We shall see though. I feel very confident we will see him. After all they didn't show Gentiana, Verstael, or Iedolas in any of the new game footage and we know they are still gonna be in it. I just think there is so much more to the game than anyone thinks and we will also meet other characters that weren't in those character portraits in the 2013 trailer. This is a FF game so I expect epicness beyond imagining.
 
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RetroPS4

Chocobo Knight
Aug 10, 2015
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I know people were disappointed in some of the changes but fortunately I didn't have negative feelings about any of them really. I honestly love Regis' new design. He looks very kingly and awesome. The new GI cover had that painting that showed young Regis looking like he did in VersusXIII so maybe we see him when he is young at some point in the game. As for the hooded man I feel like he is too important to scrap. I don't think anything was really scrapped from the 2013 E3 trailer honestly. Most people seem to think the little girl holding Noctis' hand was Stella but it was Luna actually. My point is they probably wouldn't scrap an entire character after they re branded the game to XV. We shall see though. I feel very confident we will see him. After all they didn't show Gentiana, Verstael, or Iedolas in any of the new game footage and we know they are still gonna be in it. I just think there is so much more to the game than anyone thinks and we will also meet other characters that weren't in those character portraits in the 2013 trailer. This is a FF game so I expect epicness beyond imagining.
I sincerely want this to be true, I was kind of surprised they barely showed Luna and left out Gentiana and Vertsael (and even footage of Iedolas) aside from Kingsglaive of course. (I wonder if motorcycle girl in Kingsglaive is Gentiana, everyone looks differnent in the movie and she does have jet-black hair...)

Regis' new design. He looks very kingly and awesome. The new GI cover had that painting that showed young Regis looking like he did in VersusXIII so maybe we see him when he is young at some point in the game.
Yep, he's definitely there, lol

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When I saw this I was surprised (in a good way) and imediately thought of this scene from Versus
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I think it is totally intential that we are getting these kinds of flashes in the new trailers. Another example also from that same 2011 trailer was the Aranea Highwind unveil and her appearance and animation being nearly identical to when she was un-named dragoon girl (minus being in Insomnia, RIP Insomnia invasion gameplay:().

Anyway Uncovered was an event for non-fans first and formost, so Tabata-san probably didn't want to overwhelm everyone who had not followed the game til' now. I still hope that the inevitable E3 2016 trailer may be something of a recreation of the E3 2013 one or at least give us a peek at Hooded-man if he is indeed still intact. I think it would give a similar feeling to how the Kingsglaive trailer was sort of a recreation of (many) of the key Versus moments.
 
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I sincerely want this to be true, I was kind of surprised they barely showed Luna and left out Gentiana and Vertsael (and even footage of Iedolas) aside from Kingsglaive of course. (I wonder if motorcycle girl in Kingsglaive is Gentiana, everyone looks differnent in the movie and she does have jet-black hair...)

Yep, he's definitely there, lol

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When I saw this I was surprised (in a good way) and imediately thought of this scene from Versus
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I think it is totally intential that we are getting these kinds of flashes in the new trailers. Another example also from that same 2011 trailer was the Aranea Highwind unveil and her appearance and animation being nearly identical to when she was un-named dragoon girl (minus being in Insomnia, RIP Insomnia invasion gameplay:().

Anyway Uncovered was an event for non-fans first and formost, so Tabata-san probably didn't want to overwhelm everyone who had not followed the game til' now. I still hope that the inevitable E3 2016 trailer may be something of a recreation of the E3 2013 one or at least give us a peek at Hooded-man if he is indeed still intact. I think it would give a similar feeling to how the Kingsglaive trailer was sort of a recreation of (many) of the key Versus moments.
Yea they are definitely holding a lot back. People are gonna be shocked by the amount of stuff that will be in this game. It's so crazy to think of all the stuff they have shown us seems like a lot but in reality its just a tiny fraction. E3 needs to hurry the hell up lol.
 
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