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This sounds so much better than what we actually got. Especially when you know that they could save all the cut content and concepts in the game, if they had 9 more months. Just fucking 9 more months between you, and the game you actually wanted all these years.
Back then, If all consumers would know circumstances and how it will turn out, im sure everyone would gladly wait for 9 months, even 1 more years...
This is depressing.
Back then, If all consumers would know circumstances and how it will turn out, im sure everyone would gladly wait for 9 months, even 1 more years...
This is depressing.
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You guys don't get it, i don't talk about Versus leaks, we have a game and this game called Final Fantasy XV.
Im depressed about stuff like World of Ruin section of multiple dungeons, Iris and Cidney, opening of the game was different according to leaks, there was dungeon in Tenebrae, explorable Luna's room, more of Luna presence overall, different Leviathan battle. All these stuff would really help the game to be complete.
Im depressed about stuff like World of Ruin section of multiple dungeons, Iris and Cidney, opening of the game was different according to leaks, there was dungeon in Tenebrae, explorable Luna's room, more of Luna presence overall, different Leviathan battle. All these stuff would really help the game to be complete.
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Oooh. Sorry, i was totally confused on whether you were referring to the Versus stuff or not.
Yeah 2016 release was a mistake, even with contracts another year would have been much more viable for the sake of more polish. I feel for BD2.
Yeah 2016 release was a mistake, even with contracts another year would have been much more viable for the sake of more polish. I feel for BD2.
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Whether the Umbra thing matches or not, the version of this that I saw before Ferrari spoke out said stuff about Gentiana that didn't really match what he said about her and has, apparently, since been modified to fit more closely.
I also find it rather hilarious that this guy insists on referring to Etro as "an angel" instead of either using her name or calling her a death goddess like she actually is. It reeks of try-hard "I didn't follow this closely enough to have known what I know without inside info"-ness. The same applies to his inconsistency in knowing some things about Versus in detail and not being sure about other stuff because it happened before he left.
I'd take this with an entire shaker of salt.
Anyway:
I also find it rather hilarious that this guy insists on referring to Etro as "an angel" instead of either using her name or calling her a death goddess like she actually is. It reeks of try-hard "I didn't follow this closely enough to have known what I know without inside info"-ness. The same applies to his inconsistency in knowing some things about Versus in detail and not being sure about other stuff because it happened before he left.
I'd take this with an entire shaker of salt.
Anyway:
Re: Ignis being blinded, that was obviously decided prior to Episode Duscae, since one of the King's Swordsworn in the prophecy painting had a bandage over his eyes. No inside info is needed to suss out that that had nothing to do with DLC. 
Re: Noct needing to find the other party members in the World of Ruin, that seems plausible, but it also seems like the sort of thing that would have had to change before significant work was done on it, since there's no reason why, say, older character models couldn't have been relocated to Hammerhead instead of going to waste. There's no excuse for Cindy not being at Hammerhead; Talcott even says she's supposed to be there!
Re: Versus, I'd be inclined to think this was complete bunk even if the guy who said it had other claims confirmed, because it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense and sounds like it was made up by someone who was trying to put as much FNC influence in it as possible while feigning ignorance as to many of the known details of the FNC mythos. And, seriously, calling the afterlife Versus? Nomura can come up with some... unique terminology, but that doesn't really feel like his style.
Re: Cindy in particular, if her post-timeskip design was meant to be an answer to the game's female representation problem, there was even less reason why repurposing her appearance wouldn't be prioritized (especially given how trivial it should have been to do).
Re: Stella, her appearing only to Noct doesn't make any sense in light of Ferrari's description of Gentiana as being "Stella's messenger and a point of contact between Niflheim and Tenebrae" and "a bit like Lady Oscar for her Marie Antoinette (Stella), always by her side, of few words, but with a gentle and conforting smile." The "leaker" tries to fix this in his description of Gentiana, but it doesn't really work -- if Stella's only role was to be a ghostly guide for Noct, none of what Ferrari described would be necessary.
Re: the supposed opening, the scene described is plausible. Too plausible, in fact, for the explanation of its removal to hold any water. I mean, the two line description makes perfect sense. Why in the world would the team think that an actual scene in which Bahamut referenced Noct's destiny not make sense? (It's worth pointing out, though, that the "leaker" seems to have forgotten the actual content of the Dawn trailer, because it was the Lucii (rather than Bahamut) that were present when Regis learned of Noct's fate in that trailer.
Re: the dogs, I'm not even sure what the "leaker" is trying to get across. Umbra was a party member but stopped being able to transform into a human after his removal from the party? But they added more dogs who could turn into humans, including Pryna, except that was cut too? Huh?
Re: the car and chocobos, no duh?
Re: Luna and endgame alterations, how would her role possibly have been affected by the World of Ruin being shrunk? She never spoke posthumously.
Re: Ardyn, that sounds absolutely awful. Royal arms are a complete pain to use for more than an attack or two at a time due to the health drain, so having up to thirteen separate sections of a fight against Ardyn's final form where you can't use weapons other than royal arms and the ring (which probably would be limited to Holy in a final boss fight, since the other moves are one-hit kills) sounds like the opposite of a good time. It'd be pretty bizarre on a narrative level, too, since the compassionate send-off Noct gave Ardyn requires Ardyn to look like a dying human being instead of a monster.
And, no, the Lucis crest isn't evidence of the supposed appearance of Ardyn's monster form, because it makes literally zero sense for the usurper who took Ardyn's name because Ardyn was corrupted to take as a symbol an image of a monstrous Ardyn, the heck. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to look at that crest and see the potential it offers for crafting a plausible-sounding final boss design. =P
Re: Noct needing to find the other party members in the World of Ruin, that seems plausible, but it also seems like the sort of thing that would have had to change before significant work was done on it, since there's no reason why, say, older character models couldn't have been relocated to Hammerhead instead of going to waste. There's no excuse for Cindy not being at Hammerhead; Talcott even says she's supposed to be there!
Re: Versus, I'd be inclined to think this was complete bunk even if the guy who said it had other claims confirmed, because it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense and sounds like it was made up by someone who was trying to put as much FNC influence in it as possible while feigning ignorance as to many of the known details of the FNC mythos. And, seriously, calling the afterlife Versus? Nomura can come up with some... unique terminology, but that doesn't really feel like his style.
Re: Cindy in particular, if her post-timeskip design was meant to be an answer to the game's female representation problem, there was even less reason why repurposing her appearance wouldn't be prioritized (especially given how trivial it should have been to do).
Re: Stella, her appearing only to Noct doesn't make any sense in light of Ferrari's description of Gentiana as being "Stella's messenger and a point of contact between Niflheim and Tenebrae" and "a bit like Lady Oscar for her Marie Antoinette (Stella), always by her side, of few words, but with a gentle and conforting smile." The "leaker" tries to fix this in his description of Gentiana, but it doesn't really work -- if Stella's only role was to be a ghostly guide for Noct, none of what Ferrari described would be necessary.
Re: the supposed opening, the scene described is plausible. Too plausible, in fact, for the explanation of its removal to hold any water. I mean, the two line description makes perfect sense. Why in the world would the team think that an actual scene in which Bahamut referenced Noct's destiny not make sense? (It's worth pointing out, though, that the "leaker" seems to have forgotten the actual content of the Dawn trailer, because it was the Lucii (rather than Bahamut) that were present when Regis learned of Noct's fate in that trailer.
Re: the dogs, I'm not even sure what the "leaker" is trying to get across. Umbra was a party member but stopped being able to transform into a human after his removal from the party? But they added more dogs who could turn into humans, including Pryna, except that was cut too? Huh?
Re: the car and chocobos, no duh?
Re: Luna and endgame alterations, how would her role possibly have been affected by the World of Ruin being shrunk? She never spoke posthumously.
Re: Ardyn, that sounds absolutely awful. Royal arms are a complete pain to use for more than an attack or two at a time due to the health drain, so having up to thirteen separate sections of a fight against Ardyn's final form where you can't use weapons other than royal arms and the ring (which probably would be limited to Holy in a final boss fight, since the other moves are one-hit kills) sounds like the opposite of a good time. It'd be pretty bizarre on a narrative level, too, since the compassionate send-off Noct gave Ardyn requires Ardyn to look like a dying human being instead of a monster.
And, no, the Lucis crest isn't evidence of the supposed appearance of Ardyn's monster form, because it makes literally zero sense for the usurper who took Ardyn's name because Ardyn was corrupted to take as a symbol an image of a monstrous Ardyn, the heck. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to look at that crest and see the potential it offers for crafting a plausible-sounding final boss design. =P
I think Stella sounds like a silly, cliche and stupid character. But I also think Luna is pretty much non-existent and only there to serve as a silly plot point for Noctis. Luna is pretty much an inanimate object. She serves the same purpose as the ring or the car: an aid for Noctis that doesn't have a choice in the matter (even if it's claimed that she has).
99% of the things written in message boards are opinions. No need to tell the other that it's only an opinion and that they should formulate it differently. Statements being opinions are the status quo.
99% of the things written in message boards are opinions. No need to tell the other that it's only an opinion and that they should formulate it differently. Statements being opinions are the status quo.
Whether the Umbra thing matches or not, the version of this that I saw before Ferrari spoke out said stuff about Gentiana that didn't really match what he said about her and has, apparently, since been modified to fit more closely.
I also find it rather hilarious that this guy insists on referring to Etro as "an angel" instead of either using her name or calling her a death goddess like she actually is. It reeks of try-hard "I didn't follow this closely enough to have known what I know without inside info"-ness. The same applies to his inconsistency in knowing some things about Versus in detail and not being sure about other stuff because it happened before he left.
I'd take this with an entire shaker of salt.
Anyway:
I also find it rather hilarious that this guy insists on referring to Etro as "an angel" instead of either using her name or calling her a death goddess like she actually is. It reeks of try-hard "I didn't follow this closely enough to have known what I know without inside info"-ness. The same applies to his inconsistency in knowing some things about Versus in detail and not being sure about other stuff because it happened before he left.
I'd take this with an entire shaker of salt.
Anyway:
Re: Ignis being blinded, that was obviously decided prior to Episode Duscae, since one of the King's Swordsworn in the prophecy painting had a bandage over his eyes. No inside info is needed to suss out that that had nothing to do with DLC.
Re: Noct needing to find the other party members in the World of Ruin, that seems plausible, but it also seems like the sort of thing that would have had to change before significant work was done on it, since there's no reason why, say, older character models couldn't have been relocated to Hammerhead instead of going to waste. There's no excuse for Cindy not being at Hammerhead; Talcott even says she's supposed to be there!
Re: Versus, I'd be inclined to think this was complete bunk even if the guy who said it had other claims confirmed, because it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense and sounds like it was made up by someone who was trying to put as much FNC influence in it as possible while feigning ignorance as to many of the known details of the FNC mythos. And, seriously, calling the afterlife Versus? Nomura can come up with some... unique terminology, but that doesn't really feel like his style.
Re: Cindy in particular, if her post-timeskip design was meant to be an answer to the game's female representation problem, there was even less reason why repurposing her appearance wouldn't be prioritized (especially given how trivial it should have been to do).
Re: Stella, her appearing only to Noct doesn't make any sense in light of Ferrari's description of Gentiana as being "Stella's messenger and a point of contact between Niflheim and Tenebrae" and "a bit like Lady Oscar for her Marie Antoinette (Stella), always by her side, of few words, but with a gentle and conforting smile." The "leaker" tries to fix this in his description of Gentiana, but it doesn't really work -- if Stella's only role was to be a ghostly guide for Noct, none of what Ferrari described would be necessary.
Re: the supposed opening, the scene described is plausible. Too plausible, in fact, for the explanation of its removal to hold any water. I mean, the two line description makes perfect sense. Why in the world would the team think that an actual scene in which Bahamut referenced Noct's destiny not make sense? (It's worth pointing out, though, that the "leaker" seems to have forgotten the actual content of the Dawn trailer, because it was the Lucii (rather than Bahamut) that were present when Regis learned of Noct's fate in that trailer.
Re: the dogs, I'm not even sure what the "leaker" is trying to get across. Umbra was a party member but stopped being able to transform into a human after his removal from the party? But they added more dogs who could turn into humans, including Pryna, except that was cut too? Huh?
Re: the car and chocobos, no duh?
Re: Luna and endgame alterations, how would her role possibly have been affected by the World of Ruin being shrunk? She never spoke posthumously.
Re: Ardyn, that sounds absolutely awful. Royal arms are a complete pain to use for more than an attack or two at a time due to the health drain, so having up to thirteen separate sections of a fight against Ardyn's final form where you can't use weapons other than royal arms and the ring (which probably would be limited to Holy in a final boss fight, since the other moves are one-hit kills) sounds like the opposite of a good time. It'd be pretty bizarre on a narrative level, too, since the compassionate send-off Noct gave Ardyn requires Ardyn to look like a dying human being instead of a monster.
And, no, the Lucis crest isn't evidence of the supposed appearance of Ardyn's monster form, because it makes literally zero sense for the usurper who took Ardyn's name because Ardyn was corrupted to take as a symbol an image of a monstrous Ardyn, the heck. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to look at that crest and see the potential it offers for crafting a plausible-sounding final boss design. =P
Re: Noct needing to find the other party members in the World of Ruin, that seems plausible, but it also seems like the sort of thing that would have had to change before significant work was done on it, since there's no reason why, say, older character models couldn't have been relocated to Hammerhead instead of going to waste. There's no excuse for Cindy not being at Hammerhead; Talcott even says she's supposed to be there!
Re: Versus, I'd be inclined to think this was complete bunk even if the guy who said it had other claims confirmed, because it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense and sounds like it was made up by someone who was trying to put as much FNC influence in it as possible while feigning ignorance as to many of the known details of the FNC mythos. And, seriously, calling the afterlife Versus? Nomura can come up with some... unique terminology, but that doesn't really feel like his style.
Re: Cindy in particular, if her post-timeskip design was meant to be an answer to the game's female representation problem, there was even less reason why repurposing her appearance wouldn't be prioritized (especially given how trivial it should have been to do).
Re: Stella, her appearing only to Noct doesn't make any sense in light of Ferrari's description of Gentiana as being "Stella's messenger and a point of contact between Niflheim and Tenebrae" and "a bit like Lady Oscar for her Marie Antoinette (Stella), always by her side, of few words, but with a gentle and conforting smile." The "leaker" tries to fix this in his description of Gentiana, but it doesn't really work -- if Stella's only role was to be a ghostly guide for Noct, none of what Ferrari described would be necessary.
Re: the supposed opening, the scene described is plausible. Too plausible, in fact, for the explanation of its removal to hold any water. I mean, the two line description makes perfect sense. Why in the world would the team think that an actual scene in which Bahamut referenced Noct's destiny not make sense? (It's worth pointing out, though, that the "leaker" seems to have forgotten the actual content of the Dawn trailer, because it was the Lucii (rather than Bahamut) that were present when Regis learned of Noct's fate in that trailer.
Re: the dogs, I'm not even sure what the "leaker" is trying to get across. Umbra was a party member but stopped being able to transform into a human after his removal from the party? But they added more dogs who could turn into humans, including Pryna, except that was cut too? Huh?
Re: the car and chocobos, no duh?
Re: Luna and endgame alterations, how would her role possibly have been affected by the World of Ruin being shrunk? She never spoke posthumously.
Re: Ardyn, that sounds absolutely awful. Royal arms are a complete pain to use for more than an attack or two at a time due to the health drain, so having up to thirteen separate sections of a fight against Ardyn's final form where you can't use weapons other than royal arms and the ring (which probably would be limited to Holy in a final boss fight, since the other moves are one-hit kills) sounds like the opposite of a good time. It'd be pretty bizarre on a narrative level, too, since the compassionate send-off Noct gave Ardyn requires Ardyn to look like a dying human being instead of a monster.
And, no, the Lucis crest isn't evidence of the supposed appearance of Ardyn's monster form, because it makes literally zero sense for the usurper who took Ardyn's name because Ardyn was corrupted to take as a symbol an image of a monstrous Ardyn, the heck. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to look at that crest and see the potential it offers for crafting a plausible-sounding final boss design. =P
Look, I know I will sound like one of those annoying "I know things, but I can't tell you" guys, but: there's a reason why the leaks' GAF thread wasn't locked yet
Let's leave it at that, I won't say more.
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Poster said they didn't work on Versus nor read the script themselves, and got most of the information from other members of the team and older concept art/documents shown to him as a basis for some of FFXV's assets.
Look, I know I will sound like one of those annoying "I know things, but I can't tell you" guys, but: there's a reason why the leaks' GAF thread wasn't locked yet Let's leave it at that, I won't say more.
Look, I know I will sound like one of those annoying "I know things, but I can't tell you" guys, but: there's a reason why the leaks' GAF thread wasn't locked yet
Let's leave it at that, I won't say more.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/5koawc/that_line_from_ardyn_ch14_spoilers/
spoilers, really neat detail.
spoilers, really neat detail.
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