No Car for FFXV demo

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I've got the feeling that Tabata isn't being completely honest. If the car is such an important element in the game, why act as if it's a detriment from the experience now?

If you ask me, this decision must have been made for another reason. Maybe the area for the demo would feel too small if the players could drive around it in no time, or maybe the car's development is simply not ready yet. Who knows.
 

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I've got the feeling that Tabata isn't being completely honest. If the car is such an important element in the game, why act as if it's a detriment from the experience now?

If you ask me, this decision must have been made for another reason. Maybe the area for the demo would feel too small if the players could drive around it in no time, or maybe the car's development is simply not ready yet. Who knows.
Either way is fine with me, as I won't be using the car all the much anyways. Just give me a chocobo and I am good :D.
 
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Maybe they want to avoid comparing FFXV to Grand Theft Auto? Cause you know, for many people open world + car = GTA.

But I'll forgive them if I get to ride a chocobo
 

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I've got the feeling that Tabata isn't being completely honest. If the car is such an important element in the game, why act as if it's a detriment from the experience now?

If you ask me, this decision must have been made for another reason. Maybe the area for the demo would feel too small if the players could drive around it in no time, or maybe the car's development is simply not ready yet. Who knows.
Wasn't the idea that the car WASN'T that important. I mean, it was said that the car is like another party member, but in reality the car is just always with you because it's your mode of transportation.

If anything, I think the issue would be the car mechanics aren't completed, and that's why they aren't including it, not so much the area is too small. Or, they just don't want to make a big deal about it.

Either way, I don't care, it's just the car...
 
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I always thought the demo would last at least an hour with the use of car transport. That's why I was amazed at the vastness of the Duscae region. So what they actually meant was: 1 hour of running if we just stick to finishing the game, 3 to 4 hours of running if we explore the Duscae region.

But hey, let's not be picky. Do we really want to drive the car that badly? There are plenty of games that lets us drive a car. Is there much of a difference in driving in an open-world RPG game?
 

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Looking through people's reactions to this is amazing. The amount of assumptions and projections from people on what this implies for the state of the game and more is stunning. Not on here, but other sites like NeoGAF and the Polygon comments. A car of all things is signaling red alerts in people's minds.

I see people mention magic too, as if if it was originally supposed to be in the demo or something... It was already stated a WHILE back that the magic system is in place for the most part, but the effects aren't created. It was being put off in development as it was easy to implement. Therefore, it's not going to be in the demo, it never was supposed to be in the demo.

I really wish that the full interview was posted instead of this random piece of information we could have done without, because without the rest of the context of this interview, people will be bitching and doomsaying until something gets cleared up next week.

Tabata isn't even quoted for saying the car was removed to begin with.
Originally we were planning on making the car be available to drive throughout the world and throughout the demo
But we didn’t want people to mistake it and think ‘When did Final Fantasy become a driving game?'
You’ll be able to experience the starting point of what an open-world Final Fantasy would potentially feel like,” Tabata said. “You’ll really be able to experience that seamless Final Fantasy world within the demo itself, but then if you play it, you’ll still really get a sense that it’s a Final Fantasy game. You’ll get that balance within the demo.
So, we will be able to explore the open world and the seamless experience with it... but how? The seamlessness comes from being able to go from town to town without a disconnect from the world map or to feel like you jump from town to town or in a linear pathway. So, how do you experience this in the demo?

If people think back to how the automatic driving for the car worked, you bring up your map and pick a place for you to get driven towards. THAT is assumingly still in the demo, because the car is still an integral part of transportation across an OPEN WORLD that is supposed to be SEAMLESS.

So, the extent of the car usage in the demo is you cannot manually drive, but instead you will just select where you want to go and Ignis will drive there for you. This is what I'm imagining from this explanation. I want to see the rest of the interview, I think it was stupid for Polygon to release only this piece of information about the demo. It's clear that there is more to learn about the demo from the full interview, and they picked this one piece knowing people would pick it apart and complain and start calling for the end of the world.

Someone on NeoGAF even said:
I wasn't planning on getting the demo anyway but now it just seems even more pointless to buy.I'll just wait for the final game.
As if driving the car was the most important part of this game, and not the BATTLE SYSTEM and the GAME SYSTEM. Exploring dungeons and the world map and fighting enemies including a SUMMON and then SUMMONING that summon is somehow LESS important than MANUALLY DRIVING A CAR IN A LIMITED SPACE FOR A DEMO.

What is wrong with people?!
 
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Crystal Power

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I'm kinda confused right now, people are freaking out why???

It's a car people a CAR!?

And as LeonBlade pointed out someone said they don't want the demo certainly now because the car isn't in it anymore...

Though I'm going to be honest, listen. People were so cool when the playable cast were remove but now they remove a car from a demo and all hell breaks lose. If anything the playable characters would be far more upsetting, well it was too me but I eventually got over it. Now people wanna lose it over a car????
 

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I'm kinda confused right now, people are freaking out why???

It's a car people a CAR!?

And as LeonBlade pointed out someone said they don't want the demo certainly now because the car isn't in it anymore...

Though I'm going to be honest, listen. People were so cool when the playable cast were remove but now they remove a car from a demo and all hell breaks lose. If anything the playable characters would be far more upsetting, well it was too me but I eventually got over it. Now people wanna lose it over a car????
People will always find something to go crazy over. I think having playable characters removed (while I understand it) would still be nice to have. But... being able to drive a car in a demo is something to get worked up over?
 
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They're only freaking out due to the fact that the car was promised to be in the demo but now it's not. They're just bummed out, it'll settle very soon. Though, having the car being pulled out of the demo is disappointing news to hear considering that it's going to be used oh so often in the final version of FFXV. People were looking forward to try that when they get their hands on the demo, understand that.

Tabata's reason behind that decision didn't please everyone which is why people are at an uproar.
Tabata is never quoted to say the car isn't in the demo.

"Couldn't that reason he said apply to the final version of the game as well?" is why some are finding it absurd.
No, it couldn't. The point of not allowing you to drive the car (allegedly) is to show that the car isn't the focus of the game. It's tuning your experience to what the point of the demo is. The demo isn't here for you to drive around, it's for you to explore the battle system and the game system.
 

Crystal Power

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They're only freaking out due to the fact that the car was promised to be in the demo but now it's not. They're just bummed out, it'll settle very soon. Though, having the car being pulled out of the demo is disappointing news to hear considering that it's going to be used oh so often in the final version of FFXV. People were looking forward to try that when they get their hands on the demo, understand that.
Er, um.. Playable characters were promised too.

I'm just baffled how everyone is upset and is now assuming the games world just somehow got cut/smaller because a car was removed from the demo only. It's Final Fantasy not GTA, Saints Row, etc etc. I even notice when I play Saints Row IV I'd rather now use the super powers to travel instead of a car. I must be missing something though, a car must be a pretty big deal and I've been living under a rock and missed it...

EDIT: Also I mean people from other gaming sites, not here...
 
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King Bimpy

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Tabata just means players wont get the full experience, since obviously all of it isnt complete yet, and instead only the exploration part. a car makes it much easier, so take it out to force players in the immersion. go on foot only check out this corner and that corner. get a strong sense of the movement.
 
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For the last few months they've heavily promoted the car and road trip aspect of the game, and now they're potentially having cold feet at the thought that vast swathes of people might think they've gone ahead and turned Final Fantasy into a driving game?

I don't particularly care about the car, but neither am I very convinced that "forcing" (if that word is apt for this) players to play in a certain manner is the way to do it. At least grant them a semblance of some choice as to how they decide to tackle the demo. If some people want to rush from A to B and fulfill mission objectives in a much quicker time without slowing down to check everything out, that's on them. If they walk away with the wrong impression of the game, well, that's on them for being dumb. If Square are that concerned that people can easily garner the wrong impression of what FFXV is, then let their marketing speak clearly and loudly on that.

Then again, I'm not terribly convinced that the only reason for the lack of manual driving is to encourage everyone to actually explore and approach the game as an RPG. It does seem like there's a real rush to push out a demo, and certain, unresolved hitches are preventing certain mechanics from being implemented for Episode Duscae.
 
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I've once thought of this. Maybe Square Enix scratched the idea for fast travel and replaced it with auto-driving by Ignis. Maybe that's why they said that the car is an integral part in the game, since it's the only way to travel quicker to a far distance.

My thoughts, regarding the car being removed in the demo, is that they want to showcase the vastness of a single region, since we'll br forced to run, take a breath, run again, take a breath, then run again. Either that, or they're not finished with the car mechanics. The car is only used for the road pavements. But if it was driven manually, can it step out of the pavement and drive onto the grassy areas?